They will not withstand the normal kitchen detergent cleanings that need to occurr to remove grease or pancake batter. Trying to make this choice right now(within the next two hours- yikes! Floors look VERY good! WebBona DriFast Stain mix of White and Grey with two coats of Bona NaturalSeal and finished off with Mega ONE on this beautiful floor by Beyond The Grain Custom Design with Territory Manager, Jeff Offredo, on site. are you happy with these floors or wish you would have gone darker? Quartzite gets a bad name due to companies mislabeling marbles, dolomites and sandstone. I am sorry , Thank you!! It shouldn't if it's in good shape, but don't know what shape it's in, so figure i'd warn you. Let him fix it ONCE. I answered them in order. Thank you. There is a haze to the floors as someone posted its most likely due to the matte finish. I love the natural, light color of the hardwood. Also thank you for post and thank you too other posters. Has anyone applied the Bona Nordic and HD to white oak stair partsnewel posts/rails ? The water-based products are also much easier to work with. Red oak stairs - Do I install white oak floors or red? I know I've gone on for a while. The "real" professional-grade products view DuraSeal/Minwax (owned by the same company) to be 'DIY' level products. Ask for Bona Mega One. Yes, Trump2 I agree. Wow sounds beautiful! One more thing, the rooms Ive put this flooring in are the master bedroom, guest bedroom and an office, so no heavily trafficked areas. How should I adjust these home plans to save $ or improve the layout? Otherwise time will turn the white oak yellow regardless of how it looks when freshly finished. Give a price you can make a living off of and let someone else win the low ball estimates. Dark floors are pretty popular with clients but as you mention usually going with white or painted cabinets. Your comment was devised to make me feel small and make worry about my floors when they are already finished. @renee, can you post photos of the completed project? I hope I get into the house before any subcontractors mess them up again! The natural tones of the wood will allow the rest of the space to look it's best. Im torn between satin and matte, We didn't move in yet so I cannot comment on it . It is my understanding that these Bona products are tricky to apply. Plato has the white oak shade we like - nude cream - but the estimate came in really high. I got the hardwax sampler of--I think--16 colors? A best fit can also include their 'interpretation' of your 'vision' (not theirs). I am often surprised at how it feels to open/close off certain areas. It still should not come off. A hint of tan. Sigh. They just came out with the same wood thats 1/8 inch thinner as an option. WebBona DriFast Stain is a premium quick-drying stain for interior hardwood floors. Site finish your floors with Rubio monocoat and get exactly what you want. Rift sawn white oak like we are referencing is not common at all in our location. Indem Sie auf Annehmen klicken, stimmen Sie dem zu. NordicSealis an easy to use water-based sealer from Bonawhich you can use it to achieve this popular whitewashed look. If you have 3000sf then the $2500 upgrade is nothing. Bona nordicseal is greenguard certified for indoor air quality. Thank you! Here's how to see if marble's right for you, A couple remodel their kitchen to better match their 19th-century Oregon homes style, The cabinets and a new layout transform a once-dark New Jersey kitchen into a light and bright space, Avoid going too traditional and too clean by introducing an off-white palette that brings a touch of warmth and elegance, Sure, white kitchens are beautiful when theyre sparkling clean. Mega One is a clear non-yellowing finish. I am trying to figure out the same for my rift oak cabinets. How to protect the wood enough for kitchen cabinet use but 1. My suggestion is to figure out what type of 'cleaning' person you are. They are very unforgiving and I can't imagine these floors in a house with kids and a dog. Don't change chemical companies in the middle of a refinish. Finalize your sanding with 150 grit and apply the first coat. That's how building law works. , So your final finish was 1 coat of Nordic Seal with 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin? @mtpo did you use a satin or matte finish? Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. The samples are done AFTER you hire the professional but BEFORE you put down the stain! It was another rude comment from someone who was engaging in further confrontation.Ive already asked Houzz to delete the post. Your floors are beautiful. I used no filter on the photos, on an overcast morning from different angles. I've seen professionals with 40 years experience ruin a water based applicationtwice. After looking into the flooring situation I found that if a wood floor person says "it won't hold up in Florida" theirs won't! My contractor said that I will probably need to use the renew oil every few year which I am fine with. Do you think there is any major issue with this? Really not read much about IntenSeal? The picture I attached is with one coat of Bona Mega using no stain. Im glad we didnt go darker. What was really helpful to us is that the installer did lots of different samples for us and every new layer of the top coat changed how the wood looked. It won't be cheap but it will be fast. :), McCarthy September 15 2020 post question about last sentence, or anyone please+sealant. If you said you wanted the look of 'raw wood' then matte is what they would have brought. I cannot find any locally. I'm sorry but this finish is not "salvageable". They are dry and need one more day to cure. Sigh. Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? We tried a few Duraseal stains on samples and none of them were right. @skru33 Thanks! 1 coat in the morning and 1 coat in the afternoon. And it does NOT cause amberingbut the Mega does. P.P.S. Milesi or Renner, etc etc. We didnt get the fumed product because we couldnt know for sure what color the finished product would be. My builders subs didnt handle either material and just about everyone except @Joseph Corlett (who regularly comments on Houzz) grimaced when I mentioned Corian. Find out how to keep them that way, Tired of tan? Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. I have seen plenty of samples of his work. Light, white sealed floors or dark dramatic floors? G & S gave helpful advice prior to these last two posts that are nasty. Although, it can be used as a stand alone sealer. Would love to see pics of the InteseSeal, as we are considering the same. @mtpo Your floors are beautiful. So they use 3 gal of product and it appears the TrafficHD is $100/gal more +/- than the cheaper stuff. The good news is the installer will have learned his lesson: do NOT under bid a project just to win it. You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. Double cost any standard stained finish. It is my impression that this as raw wood had less variation in color from one board to another and less pronounced grain and was a bit lighter than the American white oak or the other European white oak I saw. It is the single most abused/used FINISH ('finish' means 'pretty) in your home. If they are not able to confirm to you what material it is, then look elsewhere for your countertop fabrication. We are building next year and making decisions now. will slightly darken the floors and sort of intensify the variation (the sample boards almost looked wet to me). WebBona ClassicSeal Floor sealer highlighting the wood's natural color Size: 1 gal Find a distributor Information Documents Key benefits Minimizes tannin bleed, especially on white oak Exceptionally clear, highlighting true color of wood VOC Compliant Seals the wood, preventing the finish from penetrating Information My tub with quartz top. I don't want yellow - so thinking Natural or Nordic - but I'm worried about the white wash being too much. NaturalSeal adds the LEAST amount of 'colour' (either white or yellowdoesn't matter) of all the sealants in the Bona line up. Bona Natural Seal on the top, Bona Nordic Seal on the bottom. Unless you're certain the gaps developed AFTER installation, I'd suggest the possibility they may have been present all along. Haven't made decisions on flooring yet, but I love white oak. He said my sister was lucky ((so far) he said its really not supposed to be used for countertops. My contractor recommended leaving it natural and using a Bona Mega finish which was supposed to dry clear. Is there a really hidden section (you only need about 1 inch square) that you don't mind possibly damaging? * I didn't know that Classic Sealer added yellow that Natural Sealer did not but I didn't have anything to compare it to. Can two finish coats be done in a day or should there be a day between all 3 coats? This photo Nordic is on the top and Natural is on the bottom. Or is Minwax and Duraseal the same thing? These are the LVP samples and my unfinished white oak stair parts. Can you add some white to the Renner System? The lowest level of gloss I suggest to 'clean-shiny' person is semi-gloss. Houzz utilise des cookies et d'autres technologies de suivi similaires pour personnaliser mon exprience utilisateur, me proposer du contenu pertinent et amliorer ses produits et services. Combining Bona NaturalSeal with a matte-sheen finish such as Bona Traffic Naturale preserves that look and gives your floor the . If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. I am attempting to coordinate real white oak with white oak LVPthe unfinished white oak is an amazing match to the Paradigm Conquest Windsor and Towerwanting to basically stain/seal the posts and rails in a way that changes the natural state the least, neutralizing any weed tones. If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. Compare that to the 2 MINUTES you have with Bona! For those asking to see Intense Seal on white oak. Can you apply the Bona NaturalSeal and then apply a couple coats of something like the Renner? The tile on the back wall of the shower and the backsplash is a soft baby blue glass. That means a coat of Sealant and two coats of finish. Shaina.. White Macaubas is a true Quartzite not a granite. They either look to white/milkey or they are orangish yellow. And dont go forward unless they are willing to give you samples with ALL the finished coats. It doesn't make sense. Thank you to all of the experts for weighing in. I personally see dolomite and dense sandstones misrepresented as Quartzite more then any other material. trump2 would love to see the final product and what you chose, if your floors are finished. Thank you. Someone posted on here that if you like a just washed look reconsider using matte. Matte looks a bit dull. I think over the years, they learned how to avoid distressed clients who hate the finished floor color. Houzz uses cookies and similar technologies to personalise my experience, serve me relevant content, and improve Houzz products and services. Sie knnen nicht notwendige Cookies ber Einstellungen verwalten ablehnen. Show me your white oak floors w duraseal country white or Bona white! This only matters for porosity not hardness. The more coats you apply, the lighter it becomes. Bona DriFast Stains are compatible with all Bona finishing systems, including waterborne. These people end up crying themselves to sleep because they HATE their floors (and the massive price tag they just paid for). white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances? Thanks so much in advance!! I have read so many wood floor horror stories. The ClassicSeal will offer a hint of yellow but will not be horrible. I should add that I planned to use Bona Traffic HD finish as well since I read how durable it is and how it goes on clear without yellowing the wood. I also have some design software that may help with your need. If you are paying for professional grade products, just make sure you are GETTING professional grade products. Hi, I know this is 2+ YEARS LATER, What finish did you end up selecting for your parquet floors? Many people would give their eyeteeth for floors of that quality. That means you relate clean with shiny. Our cabinet maker will be finishing them, not us. Carly, we are trying to decide between Bona Classic Seal or Natural Seal? However, I think the maintenance is much harder than what I previously had - natural red oak with a higher sheen. (followed by Traffic HD). They should be able to get the job done for you. @Elaine Gauthier Art Did you find any solution or larger cabinet maker that has the white oak? 1,303 views Oct 22, 2020 We originally sanded this floor almost 20 years ago, this time the customer wanted a much lighter color. The refinisher must take the time and the money to go to a Bona 3-day training work shop. A gallon of Bona Traffic HD = $180 - $200. Also hope this helps .. colors hard to see on monitor, I tested classic seal, white stain and Nordic seal as well. Just my 2 cents worth but typically, OAK flooring will shrink/expand ACROSS the grain it's usually pretty stable end to end, as with most hardwood species. Disregard the walls (we are installing a new kitchen). I think the choice will be between the Natural and the Classic Seal. And DuraSeal is not necessarily considered "professional grade". @Moran Blueshtein, We are having about 3500 sq feet of the wood installed and finished plus stairs. Then the next day a coat of finish. They both marked, but the oil was harder to see. We want a more modern aesthetic. Are You Gutsy Enough to Paint Your Floor White? Nora are you installing tower or Windsor? I have been on these boards so many times looking for advice and photos from what others have done. It may come in other thicknesses too. Is the Nordic still a problem? Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. @ Moran.now I see where this has come up. In real life, they look lighter and more uniform in color than shows up on my iPhone. What is your installer recommending? The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. If you look at my photos above, the wood sample with one coat of Bona Natural sealer and one coat of Matte Traffic HD looked nice too but looked horrible with one coat of Natural and 3 coats of satin Traffic HD. It still should not come off. The problem is that at this point my trust level is quite low. Many customers like a dark stain because it looks modern and the floor is easy to decorate. These will give you the raw look, which prints tend to show up on. Thx for sharing. Our contractor informed me that it is significantly more expensive, $2500 more expensive. There was a warning on the front door telling everyone to stay out. @mtpo sorry to bring this thread back. They held up to move in with no major scratches. Classic seall will add more tan/yellow. I plan to call the Bona company tomorrow to get their assistance. Here are our raw floors right now. I asked for, but he never did, an all country white one. Out of curiosity what width floorboards did you use (and which manufacturer did you go with)? I'm so confusedthere is no flooring in the white oak, just the LVP. Another thread I found talks about Rubio mono coat. This helps our clients make up their minds before doing the whole floor. white oak hardwood flooring. He is a small shop and me and one other of his clients are the first to ask him for a "raw look" rift sawn white oak door. (I didnt think about this before adding the bookcases.) Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? I am actually in the process of having a quart sample of the Milesi Natural Effect 2k finish sent my way. I might use the Baro for my cabinetsor the Pallman's Natural. A gallon of Varathane = $80 (Home Depot). If you search my other discussions on this site, youll see how I flip-flopped so many times Corian, stainless, Neolith, D e k t o n, Quartz, wood (for the island top) and finally back to Corian. One coat Bona Natural Seal A very slight natural stain similar to the white oak color of our floors. Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. I want a natural look as well and I think I'll end up meeting with our floor guy sometime next week to go over samples. Then the next day a coat of finish. Hi thanks in advance for your help We are having white oak installed and finished on site. These were my red oak in a medium stain and you can definitely see the red undertone: My SIL did a darker stain on her floors and she says the cleaning is brutal. I also read on a hard wood flooring contractor's forum about how in the 1980s everyone's white floors eventually looked terrible because the inevitable scratches turn dark from dirt and look awful against the white. Doing the samples benefits me and the installer and builder they want me to like the finished product so they dont have an unhappy client. Gravity works. IntenSeal looked the best to me - darkening it enough to show the differences in the wood, but it seemed more tan/brown than yellow. I just had four rooms of 30-year-old white oak floors sanded down to the raw wood and refinished with Bona products. When he did the sample with a white stain (Duraseal) and my red oak floor turned pink, I stopped the work and started searching for a new guy. Look forward to more pictures. Should a distributor be able to walk me through using this product for more details? I would appreciate your advice on how to avoid the haze and advice on the Nordic product. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. (The chocolate would have been fabulous next to it.) Also, how many coats of sealer did you use? It requires a special approach. And rubio makes a treatment for acid stains. The correct answer should be "nothing at all". Dear Doane, A well established hardwood flooring company (a "ma and pa" type store) will have the big machines to get the product off of your floor. Finished with three matte protective coats. WebHealthsmart: 640-8174-1900HS, Healthsmart - 640-8174-1900HS - HealthSmart Steel Shoe Horn 24", White, HealthSmart Steel Shoe Horn 24" L, White, Epoxy-coated Steel Web108K views 6 years ago. But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? I don't want shine either - so do I do the sealer of Natural and then do an extra matte finish? Pretty sure they bleached their cabinets but who knows at this point. Will there be less haze if we use a satin finish? I did call Bona and they assured me that none of the 3 sealers would add "yellow" or "amber" to my floors - but thought I'd also ask here. True Quartzite is very dense and many are not prone to staining. Still a good quality product line, just not the best. We went with natural seal and traffic HD finish. Heres a photo of our 7 Norwegian white oak before sanding or any sealer. Floors are already sitting in the new house acclimating and I know that I am not cut out for the oil finish.). DH wants to just go with light maple cabinets and I am tempted. MEANWHILE earlier in the process I had contacted the main Corian wholesaler for the East Coast, and had gotten the name of a fabricator in my area. This is part and parcel of your payment. BTW -/ we learned that the color of the wood is different and takes the sealer or stain differently depending on where it is from. It still should not come off. Their attention to detail. Is the haze from the white that is in the sealer or the matte finish, or both? Thank you, I don't know the specific name of it. MaryJane, My white oak floors have 1 coat of Bona Natural Seal and 2 coats of Bona. When it came to a finish, I didn't want any red or yellow coloration. Its for a new build. skip to main content Sale ON SALE - UP TO 75% OFF Bathroom Vanities Chandeliers Bar Stools Pendant Lights Rugs Living Room Chairs Dining Room Furniture Wall Lighting Coffee Tables Side & End Tables Home Office Furniture Sofas Bedroom Furniture Lamps Mirrors FURNITURE My cabinets are custom sizes and I was going to go with Barker cabinets (had my order all ready to send), but someone here on houzz recommended I check out this local guy first, and I am so glad I did! So due to budget going to have to give this a go on my own. I believe there is a local one and I plan to at least explore that. new and it will be white oak common # 1. But they did just complete a project with Bona NordicSeal. Thanks. Three teenagers, a dog. I disagree that it was not an attack on me as G & Ss follow up comment said, oh yeah, hidden message. Cant decide! I didnt know what I wanted for finish when I contracted the job and their quote was for a cheaper finish. Heres a pic kitchen isnt finished yet but should give you an idea, Blizzard fierce or butter soft, white can highlight shapes, unify a room and perform miracles on the cheap, Avoid going too traditional and too clean by introducing an off-white palette that brings a touch of warmth and elegance, From silvery ash to honey blonde or chalk white, light-toned floors hold the key to the pared-back simplicity of Scandinavian style, Rustic touches from nature embellish the white-and-wood palette in this remodeled house in Denmark, White too bright in your kitchen? The only design mistake in the house (IMHO) is this floor - the sample and photos looked so different!). I know one of the Milesi products in the natural effects side does contain a UV filter. It's hard to tell how deep those scratches are. Apply and wipe off excess. He just did coat #2, not sure how much he used. San and finish guys come in next. You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. I knew this was IT. I was thinking Bona Natural and then Bona Extra Matte finish? I've read mixed reviews of the Loba one last thing, Is your parquet the kind with slats/"fingers"? They are very unforgiving and I can't imagine these floors in a house with kids and a dog. Prevent the tannin pull so common with white oak. @Ashley Your floors look beautiful. @mtpo - Your floors look BEAUTIFUL, thank you for sharing the pics, I can't wait to see the final product. Our floors were recently finished I havent seen them yet. Make sure you use a PROFESSIONAL who is TRAINED in water based applications. @mpto Thanks so much, can't wait to see your final product!! I'll be sure to question about their history with using bona in the past. Thank you for posting a picture! I like it a lot no visible seam at the back of the countertop). We love our floors! Windows for a 1920's Spanish style home in SoCali. Contact your Bona rep to understand all the options with the Bona System or view our catalog here: https://bit.ly/3eqqhSK. Dry finish. I had just had floors done by a floor shop, two years of hospice requires me to redo them, seems a layer can be scraped up with a spackle scraper easily and turned dark ( like cherry wood does in sunlight but this was white oak ). Bona Craft oil 2K oiled floor in COLOR Air and dogs. Was afraid it would look a bit cartoonish or out of place. My installer has Amber i think yhat will be too dark. If you do NOT want ORANGEthen stay away from "oil" based finishes or "oil modified". A sand/refinish of an existing floor = $4-$5/sf. Which one did you end up going with? According to WFB's 2020 State of the Industry Contractor Survey Report, in 2019 red oak made up 48% of installed species and white oak made up 32% Directly before me was one of the mirrors I have mentioned, in which I saw reflected the tall shape of my friend, Mr. Jennings, leaning over my shoulder, and reading the page at which I was

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