I was at the game (as I was in 1980) and Saturday was a lot worse. * I was never a fan of yours Murdo but I never thought you could sink this low. But a lower percentage of us supports independence. Were the first to admit it, but the way we were treated was appalling. I think a lot of friendships have broken up about it. Songbook Over the years Rangers F.C. Devine said there had been a Catholic conversion to independence. Instead, the Glasgow crowd strikes up a weary chorus of the British national anthem, God Save the Queen. Glasgow bakery Mortons Rolls 'ceases all trading' in huge blow to city. Harvey, 16 was diagnosed with Acute Lymphoblastic Leukaemia after complaining of 'unbearable' pain in his back and legs. * Do you think its suitable to be condoning the politicisation of football when there is such tensions? Scots medic braves aftershocks to help pregnant mums plucked from earthquake rubble in Turkey. Ive seen at least one already Yes supporting bluenose so sickened by the treatment that he decided to stop campaigning. (LogOut/ #15. Supporting Rangers, however, is not one of them. I used to be a season-ticket holder myself at Ibrox. In February 2012, it enters administration. It was chastening when a somewhat chagrined Mr Fraser, a few hours later, had to eat his words when hed seen what the rest of Scotland saw namely Frasers peace-loving Rangers fans attacking the forces of law and order in the most bestial fashion. Small wonder that many in Scotland who associated themselves with the kirk, the Queen and the Tartan establishment felt a jolt of angry disbelief at what seemed the overthrow of the natural order of things. Music fans who attended last year will have to fork out a bit more for the 2023 festival - but organisers ave defended the price hikes. * Celebratory sectarian nonsense on old firm day. I take it your not looking for votes from any other teams fans. * Pleased to hear Rule Britannia being sung by only a few at Hampden Must mean something for the Queens11 & dinosaurs like you. To inquire about a licence to reproduce material, visit our Syndication site. The only game in town North Ayrshire Council Sturgeon-Evans and the PFIScandal, In the decade since Humza Yousafentered Holyrood he has established himself as the Forrest Gump of Scottish politics, surfacing at a department every time it was bedevilled by controversy, misfortune orerror. But others are skeptical of the Scottish National Party and its leader, Alex Salmond, since the introduction of the Offensive Behavior Act, which has restricted at least in the view of some Celtic fans the expression of the clubs Irish heritage. * Just gained a vote for Tory next elections. * Dry your eyes Of course the Queen is a Rangers fan. * Why is this comment bigoted ? Their average home attendance is 52,567 per match and their total attendance is 1,141,813 since their inception. To view the purposes they believe they have legitimate interest for, or to object to this data processing use the vendor list link below. Gaining an understanding of his views requires the viewer to enjoy the humour but assimilate the messages. Murdo Fraser, like other Tories really believes that by defending sectarian bigots and by identifying the Tories with a club like Glasgow Rangers will endear them to the Scottish working class. * Good reply, I hope he shares it with his party leader. Nicky Butt interviewed for Aberdeen job as former Man United star admits process made him feel 'sick'. There have been two more international games since then, but both were won by the same team (England). Though grandees of both clubs have urged a No vote, a May survey showed a lead in support for independence among fans of both Celtic and their Old Firm arch-rivals Rangers, who embrace British iconography like the union flag and the royal family. Huge blaze in Edinburgh as flames engulf children's play park. * What a way to polarise one section of the electorate. Learn how your comment data is processed. That take is You cant be a Rangers supporter and vote for the SNP. Scottish nationalists may have failed in their 2014 bid for independence, but that wasnt the end of the story. Bravo to him, hopefully he keeps his word. The Radical Independence Campaign, a volunteer-led civilian organization supporting a break with Britain, has even used home games at Celtic Park to draw attention to its cause. Michael Beale expects a response and his players know they must find one against Derek McInnes' side. Change). Saul Murray, 33, died during a robbery-gone-wrong after he met two women at his flat who gave him the sedative GHB after engaging in sexual activity with him. * Ridiculous coming from a grown man never mind someone in a responsible position. Fellow Light Blues supporters were quick to shut down the claim. The Scottish Cup. The schism runs deep: Celtic fans are, historically, Irish Catholic and in favor of Scottish independence and a united Ireland separate from Britain. It didnt help when Mr Gascoigne made a complete fool of Colin Hendry and Andy Goram at Euro 96. Scots on alert for snow and ice as country prepares for coldest day of the year. * What is the connection with rangers and the queen. Celtic and Rangers played their first game back-to-back on 25 August 1887. The headline stuck out like a sore thumb; those big black letters grabbing my attention. Didnt know he was a bear. For the Yes camp, the seats at Kilmarnocks Rugby Park are where they will find most backers, with 59 per cent planning to vote for independence. Nacho Novo said: Scottish first and foremost, British as my secondary identity. Youll find them too. A spokesman for the Yes Rangers group said: Although I understand the number asked was relatively small, its a pleasant surprise to see more Rangers supporters voting Yes than No. Anti-SFA chants at Ibrox became the norm. Rangers Football Club is a Scottish football club based in the city of Glasgow.. At that time, both clubs were owned by businessmen who were friends and business partners - neither had a religious affiliation. do rangers fans support scottish independence. * Bravo Mr Tomkins, I actually trust this guy to do his best for us, most unusual for a politician. * Impressed with that response. Fast forward a few decades and its Indyref. What do flags mean to me? Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. After a number of years at the top of Scottish football successive failures to qualify for European competitions brought about a financial crisis and this linked to Inland Revenue investigations of wrong doing resulted in the club folding in default of a number of loans. In doing so, McGregor extended to 11 his winning record in senior showpiece occasions and in total he has won seven league titles, four Scottish Cups and . The rest are apparently undecided. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features Press Copyright Contact us Creators . Were not far from being the majority in Scotland. 1000 Scottish football fans were surveyed in recent poll. I dont know why we dont vote more conservative in Scotland. Beta V.1.0 - Powered by automated translation. Rangers fans have been urged to be patient with Ianis Hagi by his father Gheorghe Hagi after he admitted it will take time for him to return to his best after over a year out of action. But the majority of Rangers supporters still followed Scotland. proves you bring football and religion into politics Scotlands shame. Four to six generations later, all of the local fans are Scots rather than Irish. Traditionally, Rangers is as British as afternoon tea or Downton Abbey. The clubs symbol is the Union Jack. About | . Your email address will not be published. She also had a stint working for Scottish Opera and even met Queen Elizabeth II. Traditional industries declined, dragging down old elites. Celtic fans coordinated their statement at a recent match against Dundee United, raising their placards during the 18th minute, a symbolic nod to the date of the vote on independence. Every Rangers fan turned away is a potential Yes vote lost, and probably more than one, because theyll tell their friends and family that Rangers supporters arent welcome in the independence movement, that the bigots are right that they have to be British forever. I was being open and vociferous about my leanings, because it was important to let curious Rangers supporting lurkers see that it was perfectly normal to support independence AND Rangers. Whenever these guys represented their country there was a whole host of Bears tuning in. Saturdays troubles and concerns should transcend politics. Supporters flooded away triumphant after a 2-1 victory, passing estates where Yes signs and Scottish flags predominated in windows and balconies. It was now, 10 years on, that the no Catholics need apply signs were erected around Ibrox. Obstetrician Paul Holmes, who is normally based at Forth Valley Royal Hospital in Larbert, has spent the last three weeks helping women and babies affected by disaster. * Rangers fans know your a toxic Tory. Like you, I was appalled by what I saw. The Light Blues supporter was marching with Celtic fans during the AUOB independence march at the weekend. All; Albums; Appearances; Awards; In Performance; Press; Uncategorized There are remainers and leavers, unionists and nationalists. Regardless of who you vote for on December 12th, ignore the worst take in Scottish Football Twitter history and leave your football team outside the polling station. To see all content on The Sun, please use the Site Map. Paper Subscription to the Daily Record and Sunday Mail, Paper Subscription to the Paisley Daily Express, 2023 Scottish Daily Record and Sunday Mail Ltd, Transfer news LIVE as Rangers and Celtic plus Aberdeen, Hearts and Hibs eye signings, Ally McCoist gives Rangers VIP treatment to Laura Woods as she raves about 'amazing' Ibrox, Steven Whittaker insists Rangers have nothing to fear in Champions League as he shares his opposition insight, Rangers 3 Kilmarnock 1 LIVE score as Ryan Jack sees goal chalked off for offside. Change), You are commenting using your Twitter account. Rangers 3 Kilmarnock 1 LIVE reaction as Michael Beale picks up another league win. http://www.organizedrage.com/2012/08/where-did-it-all-go-wrong-for-glasgow.html. Obstetrician Paul Holmes, who is normally based at Forth Valley Royal Hospital in Larbert, has spent the last three weeks helping women and babies affected by disaster. Like all good folks. We also may change the frequency you receive our emails from us in order to keep you up to date and give you the best relevant information possible. * Of course they are the Queens 11, they love to avoid tax too. It is estimated that 70 to 80 percent of Celtic's fan base are Catholic, while fewer than 10 percent are Protestant. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Enter your email address to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. The Arsenal legend has revealed it's because he thinks the 15m striker can do more after dropping to the bench. Ill have all the powers, and your brothers can die fighting my wars., 19 September 2014: Vice news report on the outcome of the referendum. Shouldnt you support youre local club over a Glasgow club. They were met by campaigners from Ireland, who had flown to Glasgow to join Scottish friends in the Yes campaign. Scottish Fire Service crews rushed to Restalrig Park after receiving reports of a massive blaze at 1.30pm. Are Nicola Sturgeon's strong family ties with England adversely influencing her support for Scotland's independence ? * Excellent reply from Mr Tomkins, its good to know we have a politician on our side, I may need some advice later. Revealed: Rangers provide Scotland support with more fans than Celtic, Aberdeen and Hearts Published: 12:14 Thursday 13 June 2019 Rangers have the biggest percentage of Scotland supporters.Picture: SNS Share this article It is an argument which arises every time the Scotland are set to play. CELTIC and Rangers fans have found a cause that unites them - Scottish independence. The company, based in Drumchapel, has reportedly ceased all trading with its annual results currently overdue by more than two months. Facebook. Seated beneath a framed copy of the 1916 Proclamation with which rebels declared the right of the people of Ireland to the ownership of Ireland, Catholic Glaswegian pensioner Tony Donnelly, 66, declared his intention to vote No. * I think shed prefer them to deliver their taxes to her Revenue & Customs officers. Rangers are Scotland's quintessential club, no one can take that away from us, we run this country, always will and always have done. It is not just Celtic and Rangers being used to amplify the campaigns; last months Edinburgh derby between Hearts and Hibernian was also targeted by the R.I.C. Jeff Stelling sees Rangers title hopes as 'impossible' as Kris Boyd cannot envisage Celtic stumble. They should be wooed, encouraged gently into the fold, told that they belong and that Scotland is theirs as much as anybodys. The thought of a Rangers player in dark blue being booed, or the majority of Gers supporters turning their back on the national team wouldve been unthinkable back then; sacrilege, almost. Paper Subscription to the Daily Record and Sunday Mail, Paper Subscription to the Paisley Daily Express, 2023 Scottish Daily Record and Sunday Mail Ltd, 'Anyone can win trophies at Celtic' says man who doesn't win trophies, Rangers 3 Kilmarnock 1 LIVE score as Ryan Jack sees goal chalked off for offside. Choosing not to vote for them purely because you're a Rangers fan and Rangers fans don't vote for the SNP is, however, utterly ludicrous. Saul Murray, 33, died during a robbery-gone-wrong after he met two women at his flat who gave him the sedative GHB after engaging in sexual activity with him. Teen diagnosed with cancer after rash appeared on his body as mum warns parents. Man arrested after alleged assault in Edinburgh city centre as street sealed off. The aim of this forum is to debate Scottish independence but offensive material will not be tolerated and this forum reserves the right to remove it. Its hardly earth shattering news. Independence supporters had gathered earlier in the day in George Square with the purpose of peacefully discussing the shock outcome of the referendum, less than 36 hours before. Photograph:. Child Benefit payments will increase next month - here are the new weekly rates. greater than or equal to calculator. The group made their way through Glasgow with thousands of others and displayed a banner which read 'United For Scottish Independence'. Michael Beale's side are now six points behind Celtic at the top of the league. * Why are you trying to stir up tension? * To refer to the queens 11 after the tax dodging schemes does take a brass neck. Those fans have denied the charges and are currently free during the two-week period in which they can appeal. and I be aware even SNP supporters do not assume having a referendum on independence is essential. A RANGERS fan has claimed half of the Ibrox support are in favour of Scotland being an independent country. jacobite rebellions and all that. 679215 Registered office: 1 London Bridge Street, London, SE1 9GF. The Conservative and Unionist Party went into its free-fall phase. Paper Subscription to the Daily Record and Sunday Mail, Paper Subscription to the Paisley Daily Express, 2023 Scottish Daily Record and Sunday Mail Ltd, Haunting images show mysterious Scots caravan park abandoned by locals. She could learn from Prof Tomkins. But fair play your stupidity is a lesson 2 all Today, Rangers plays in the Scottish Premiership and has won five championships, the last one being in 2012 when they defeated Hibernian 4-0 in the final at Hampden Park. And thus, with the occasional, soon-corrected stumble off the narrative line, things were to remain until the 1960s when, the world over, old certainties began to fragment and fade. As competition between the clubs grew more intense, differences of opinion between their owners led to a split in 1969. Keep my clubs name away from this drivel. The All Under One Banner (AUOB) group told cops they would be taking to the streets in January following the general election results. Without the funds from lucrative European cup competition, years of hubris and inept leadership catch up with Rangers. Loyalists burning saltires in George Sq again? But that benevolence was nowhere to be seen when we needed it. The response has offered a reminder of how toxic any debates can be in modern Scotland. In addition, while both sets of supporters claim that all they want is success for their teams, many observers believe that this argument is merely used by each group to justify their passionate behavior. The numbers are significant and much work needs to be done (between now and the date if the next referendum) to convince the bulk of the Unionist supporting fans and their dependents that their future is with a Scotland free from the false utopia that is Westminster. The Rangers boss hasn't been shy to take a leaf out of his counterpart's book but there's one more thing he should take note of across the city. Yet the yes campaign has taken root among the Celtic fan base. Tributes paid to 'formidable' Scots community stalwart who lost battle with cancer. The Met Office said next week will start with the coldest day of the year so far with temperatures dropping to near freezing in northern parts of the UK. He talked, we listened. Your email address will not be published. 20 July 2016: Brexit May Be Scotlands Chance at Independence. And all this was achieved without anyone (apart from Murray and a tight-knit coterie around him as well as, presumably, account managers at the Bank of Scotland) knowing that the club was meantime sinking ever deeper into what Americans might call the doo-doo. Even if Murdo Frasers remarks do get the Tories an extra few votes, he has lost his party ten times as many votes. Thats over 700 who believe you cant call yourself a Rangers supporter if you vote for a particular political party. We and our partners use data for Personalised ads and content, ad and content measurement, audience insights and product development. Shameful every sense Man arrested after alleged assault in Edinburgh city centre as street sealed off. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. 5 talking about this. * The daftest thing abut this tweet is the thought that the Queen cares what the score with Rangers was! We've spent decades being shat upon from an enormous height by Westminster governments, exactly like the fans of every other club in Scotland. Fraser, in statement number two said: The attacks on police officers and paramedics are deplorable and have to be condemned without reservation. The moral of this story is that when it comes to issues of public order, politicians shouldnt rush to judgement especially when it comes to the supporters of Glasgow Rangers, or any other, football club. who gives two craps if the Queen is Hun. Just you carry on supporting your team son. Something went wrong, please try again later. The people at Glasgows Brazen Head establishment, united in support of the citys Celtic football club, are split over an independence referendum that has cut across class, religion and even football loyalties. Wee Nicola is my constituency MSP. Giu 11, 2022 | how to calculate calories per serving in a recipe. When the Geordie genius Gazza joined Rangers in 1995, a few more made the switch from the dark blue of Scotland to the iconic white top of England. fans have created incredible atmospheres in football grounds and come up with some of the creative chants and songs. (LogOut/ Post author By ; Post date masked singer judges wearing same clothes 2021; drupal is platform dependent true or false on do rangers fans support scottish independence on do rangers fans support scottish independence Thousands of Scots took to the streets in waterproof ponchos as they waved massive flags and banners. June 11, 2022 . She also had a stint working for Scottish Opera and even met Queen Elizabeth II. Kathy Friend, from Glasgow, was involved in a number of nature-related ventures, and formerly worked as a camerawoman. But were affected as much as everyone else by the poor decisions of successive Westminster governments. Retired detective Allan Jones claims Sinclair should have been tried for the murders Anna Kenny, Hilda McAuley and Agnes Cooney. Today we see for ourselves how easy it is for students to take the easy route to degrees, Michael Beale's Celtic huddle showed he's learning from the best but he should copy another Ange factor - Chris Sutton. do rangers fans support scottish independence; central district of california local rules I dont understand it, he said, shaking his head in disbelief. Scots on alert for snow and ice as country prepares for coldest day of the year. Iona, 25, has been trolled on Twitter, called out about her appearance and she has woken up to disgusting . tiziana sabatini novio. * Despair at the quality of our presumptive political class, sometimes. Celtics relationship to the independence debate is more complex. Remember who pays your salary and behave yourself man! Finally, it should be noted that while most Rangers and Celtic fans are happy to call themselves fans, others use the names of their clubs as an excuse to display their hatred toward others. * Representing all areas of Scottish society eh? * We are trying to move on from this bile you headcase. ifsi virtual learning. Richard's favorite part of his job is meeting the players in person and getting to know them on a personal level, which allows him to write about them with accuracy and compassion. They were initially located in Calton Road but moved to Ibrox Stadium in 1890. Rangers squad revealed as double injury boost hiding amid Lawrence and Roofe gloom. * Glad youre able to rise above the sectarian bile associated with the old firm. Steins team-mates, John Greig and Willie Henderson were also on the score sheet. Is there sectarianism between Celtic and Rangers fans? Man collapses and dies outside Edinburgh shop after 'taking unwell in street'. The anti-indy group swung the giant flags in the air in an attempt to crash the All Under One Banner parade. It was May, 1969, and Colin Stein, who had recently joined Rangers for a record-breaking fee of 100,000, had bagged four. Glasgow's Old Firm football clubs were originally all-Catholic teams. Rangers fans unveil banner demanding 'change' as they tell board 'you took your eye off the ball'. SNP leadership candidate Ash Regan's independence plan was met with grumbles from the crowd at the party's latest hustings. Today we see for ourselves how easy it is for students to take the easy route to degrees, Michael Beale's Celtic huddle showed he's learning from the best but he should copy another Ange factor - Chris Sutton. More Rangers supporters than anyone else in Scotland. * Another reason not to vote Tory. But the rise of social media, opposing views over the Scottish independence referendum and Rangers' 2012 liquidation have led to heightened tensions in recent years.

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