The smallest cartridge was the .25-35 Winchester, which preceded the .30-30 Winchester by a few months, both of which were introduced in 1895. Ive loaded A-2495 in the .243 Winchester shooting 70-grain bullets. Ive burned several pounds of A-2700 in the .22-250 and Swift. The other top-sellers are the .17 Mach IV, .17 Rem., .17 Fireball and Hornadys .17 Hornet. his or her individual rifle. Pet Loads and Handloader are registered trademarks of Wolfe Publishing Company. Patrick's top picks for loading the .17 Remington Fireball are Hodgdon's CFE BLK, Accurate's A-2200, Alliant's Reloder 10x and Western Powders' Ramshot X-Terminator. Choose your caliber, bullet and bullet weight to find your desired Hornady load data. barm # 13676946 03/21/19. The .17 HMR round has a blistering muzzle velocity of 2,500 fps. .17 Remington (Using Hornady Bullets) Warning! Years ago, a friend who worked at Remington informed me that more Model 700 rifles in .17 Rem. .17 HMR ammunition is pretty darn good! the Isaac Walton rifle range, located in the forested hills south of Seems like once I settle on a load, the bullet is discontinued. Top 10 6.5 PRC (Precision Rifle Cartridge) Rifles, .375 H&H Mag. The M1903 Springfield, officially the United States Rifle, Caliber .30-06, Model 1903, is an American five-round magazine-fed, bolt-action service repeating rifle, used primarily during the first half of the 20th century.. Just think of where it has been, the game it has taken, and the hours of shooting enjoyment it has provided over the decades. 15 yards isn't much of a test for accuracy. I picked up a rifle that I've been wanting for a long time: a 700 Classic in 17 Remington. HORNADY Varmint Express: smallest group 5/8"; largest My 7RM did really well with H1000 with 168 and 180 HVLDs. It may be a touch too slow burning for the .22-250 still, 55-grain bullets reached slightly over 3,600 fps with groups close to .5 inch. Hornady 75-grain V-MAX bullets shoot groups as tightly as .29 inch with the aid of A-4064. As with the 6.5 Creedmoor, it performs best on elk when loaded with tough, deep-penetrating bullets. Learn the difference between revolvers and semi-auto pistols and what makes them different. commodity on earth and we weren't about to waste what we had learned, So if you find yourself in possession of a nice vintage rifle chambered for the .35 Rem., do not despair. The Remington Model Seven is ready, willing and able to handle just about any task. Although I enjoy reloading, I would rather spend time hunting. The newest loading manuals, such as Speers Number 15 and Hornadys 11th edition, list loads for a bunch of new powders, so I had to give them a whirl. CCI TNT: high 2613 fps; low 2517 fps; extreme spread that the averages below would have been smaller if testing had taken My CZ 527 7.62x39 is a favorite for stalking marmots in the spring. I've used IMR 4350 and IMR 4831. It's also capable of long-distance shots. Remington introduced it in 1971, and soon thereafter a friend of mine bought a Model 700 BDL chambered for it. In an attempt to eliminate as much During fire-forming the case will headspace on its rim and the shoulder will be moved forward to the Ackley position. is rimless, it headspaces on its relatively small shoulder. The first three were rimless versions of the Winchester cartridges, with slight dimensional changes, and had 0.421-inch rims. largest group 2-3/8"; mean average group = 1-13/32". As part of this comparison we decided to chronograph the Last edited by obaro; 04/10/20 09:18 AM. All Rights Reserved. These bullets fired slightly at a velocity above 1,600 fps are pretty much at full-power from the Marlins 18.5-inch barrel stiff recoil verified it. I'd load 55 and 60gn bullets in your rifle. I'm shooting 24.5gr/IMR-4320 still shooting some Rem 25gr bullets. All loads were fired at a distance of 50 yards from the benchrest in my shooting building. Both bullets have been pretty accurate with a little load work up. is readily suitable for shooters to load their own ammunition, and dies, other tools, and accoutrements are available, as are bullets especially designed for the round. It may seem odd that a cartridge shooting fat, heavy bullets at moderate velocities would still be popular 116 years after its introduction. Custom Mossberg 500 at the Range and Live Turkey!. The CZ 7.62x39 grouped three Hornady 123-grain Spire Point bullets in .69 inch with LT-32 and into 1.05 inches shooting LT-30. Taurus has redesigned this sporting pistol for performance. can also be quite accurate. Hornady A World Record Attempt: Practice Round and Media Day, Interview with Israeli Defense Forces, Part 1. Groups hover around an inch at 100 yards. This round is excellent for plinking and firearms safety training. Notes: This data was shot by Brian Pearce, Wolfe Publishing Company. You can trust these magazines day in and day out they are reliable, affordable, and widely available. .17 Remington - Published Manufacturer Loading Data Shellholders: Hornady #16 Lee #4 Lyman #26 RCBS #10 Recipe Type: Bullet Weight: Recipe Source: Starting Max Source 15.5 gr NTX (HDY) 0.172" Powder: Benchmark (Hodgdon) Primer: REM 7 Case: REM Trim Length: 1.786" C.O.L. The trim die squeezes the neck down to .17 caliber, and its hardened surface allows squaring up the mouth of the case with a fine-tooth file. By this same token, if the bullets jacket is too hard then controlled and predictable expansion on target can not be relied on, which it needs to be if it is to withstand the friction and heat generated when fired at hyper-velocity. is short but more than adequate for the cartridges purposes. The 200-grain FTX load with 46.0 grains of LVR averaged 2,163 fps with a 0.83-inch group average. When it comes down to velocity, the .17 Rem. Nosler, the world's finest bullets, ammunition, rifles, & brass. CCI BR-4. HORNADY Varmint Express: high 2698 fps; low 2621 fps; Formed by necking down Remingtons .221 Fireball case and increasing shoulder angle to 30 degrees, OBrien claimed a velocity of 3,700 fps for a 25-grain bullet. We used the four leaves the others choking on its dust. Hey guys, i've got one of the Remington 700 SPS in 17 Fireball. It's interesting to see actual velocity figures for That pair shot five bullets well under .5 inch the best the old Swift rifle has shot any load. ambient air temperature varied between 55 and 80 degrees. The .17 Hornady Magnum Rimfire (.17 HMR) cartridge is based on a .22 WMR case necked down to accept .17 caliber bullets. Berger bullet You must log in or register to reply here. The powder is just right for the Swift. Though, as with all the .17 bullets, if you push them too fast, too soon, the high rotational spin in flight can cause the bullet to disintegrate before it reaches the target. A 24-grain payload of RL15 shot the 20-grain V-Max out at 4,040fps on a cold day and 4,120fps on a hot one, with 25 grain absolute max grounding out at 4,200fps fast enough for anyone. An increase of another 0.5 grains yields a further 150fps increase and a round 26 grain only adds a 45fps increase. Velocity was instrumental 15 feet ahead of the muzzle. You find 3 loads in caliber .17 Rem. 24.0g of IMR 4350 with a Rem 7 1/2 (Warning do not use a thin cup primer with the 17 Remington) 25g bullet = 4100+ Decopper your barrel frequently, use good bronze bristle brushes often and throw them away after 100 strokes. This American-made, fast-burning, double-based powder is suited to small capacity cases like the .22 Hornet and 7.62x39, and it is also useful for lightweight bullets in the .223 Remington. All bullets were molly coated, and the groups are 5 shots at 100 yards. You find load data for cartridges in caliber .17 Rem. The Federal Premium V-Shok load we tested uses a 17 Western's data guide lists A-2200 loads for the .17 Hornet, .223 Remington, 6mm PPC and 6mm BR. Mikey Hartman, Lt. Col. from CCI, Federal, Hornady and Remington, the brands of ammunition most As a resultand as a testament to the .35 Rem.s endearing popularityFederal, Remington, and Winchester still offer factory-loaded ammunition for it, all with fast-opening, 200-grain roundnose bullets at a listed velocity of 2,080 fps. Except for the CCI A17 load, all brands claim a muzzle velocity (MV) of 2525-2550 fps and in our chronograph testing actually delivered average MVs of 2550-2650 fps, depending on the load. accurate arms. Uniform case lengths aid this process. But he became best known for the development of wildcat and improved cartridges bearing his name. Combine it with a hollow point or polymer tip bullet, and varmints and other small game don't stand a chance. The Not good. The neck of the case will be shorter than on cases formed from .22 Hornet brass, but accuracy is the same and flickertails dont seem to mind. Want to buy a single issue of Shooting Times, Sporting Gun or Airgun Shooter. Re: 17 Remington Load Data. Ive used it in the .22-250 Remington for a reduced- velocity load with 40-grain bullets to duplicate the .22 Hornet. a whopping 8" at 150 yards. Ballistic coefficients of those with plastic tips are considerably higher than the hollowpoints. fun. at 3,800 fps has close to the same trajectory. rifles reviewed for Guns and Shooting Online, it velocity/energy figures for this load are 2050 fps and 159 ft. lbs. Initial problems I also load 72gr in a Browning X-bolt, for a good . ft. lbs. This result is almost unheard Oehler Model 20 chronograph with Model 50 electronic screens spaced 10 feet. LT-32, loaded in the .223, shot a five-shot group that measured .54 inch with Nosler 69-grain HPBT bullets and .73-inch groups with Hornady 40-grain V-MAX and Nosler 50-grain Ballistic Tips. Ive burned a lot of Accurate 4064 in the .22-250 and .243 Winchester. All in all, the fine old .35 Remington continues to hold its own in the midst of new competitors. The .35 Rem. A 15-grain bullet will exit a barrel at hair-raising velocities initially, Ive had more than 4,300fps with a near maximum load, that gives 616ft/lb energy at the muzzle. MagPro loaded in the .270 Winchester shot two different 150-grain bullets a touch slower than 2,900 fps. Certainly, it was the most Similarly with the 18 grain, 24 grain of RL15 yielded only 3,875fps and an increase of one grain to 25 grain topped out at 4,222fps. Standard Large Rifle primers are perfectly adequate for the .35 Rem., as most powder charges are in the 40- to 45-grains range. PPU's .22 Hornet ammo is ok, just not terribly accurate. Expecting to receive a half-dozen or so, I was quite surprised after opening the package to see more than 30 different cartridges ranging in size from the .17 Lilliput on a shortened .22 Hornet case to the .17 Swift on the full-length .220 Swift case. BP-B2. You won't find a powder that will work "ideal" for both the .223 and the 25/06. Twenty-five-grain bullet weights are the standard factory offering, but I use 20-grain and 25-grain Hornady V-Max bullets with good results. FEDERAL Premium V-Shok: smallest group 11/16"; Gun: Thompson/Center Contender; barrel length: 26 3/4 inches (MGM); case: Remington; primer: Remington 7 1/2 Small Rifle; bullet diameter: .172"; COAL: 2.150"; maximum COAL: 2.150"; maximum case length: 1.796"; trim to length: 1.786". Loading up When I prepare for the spring gopher campaign, I load a big batch of .223s with this powder and 40-grain bullets. The reason for this precaution is due to the possibility that when a round is fired, the nose of a bullet of a cartridge in the magazine might set off the primer of the round ahead of it. These powders were originally intended for target shooters, but the two powders also work well in small-game cartridges. RifleShooter Magazine editor Scott Rupp breaks down all the features of the Mossberg Patriot Predator rifle chambered in 6.5 PRC. the .17 HMR cartridge is very susceptible to the effects of wind, we The distances at which the bullets still have 1,000 ft-lbs of retained energy is 265 yards for the FTX and 175 yards for the roundnose. Parker Otto Ackley wore many different hats. Brass Mfg: Winchester. 4831 is the better powder for the 25/06. The .223 Remington is America's favorite cartridge according to rifle and ammunition sales. Fortunately, shooting .17 HMR rifles is really loads, this is obviously very accurate factory loaded ammunition. Deer seasons in the UK. I also use Berger bullets, which offer weights from 15-grain, 18-grain, 20-grain, 22-grain and 25-grain bullets, with two heavier bullets of 30 grain and 37 grain. The lighter bullet can be boosted by 46.0 grains of LEVERevolution (LVR) to 2,316 fps, which produces a muzzle energy of 2,144 ft-lbs. the average group size between 1.125 MOA and 1.531 MOA across all five Those are not huge differences in bullet drop and drift between the two bullet diameters, although the .22s do deliver more energy to the target. First Focal Plane vs. Second Focal Plane Scopes Explained: Which is Best? The original purpose of the belted magnum concept taken from the .300 H&H Magnum and .375 H&H Magnum, was to provide precise headspace . Note: Complete reviews of all of these rifles can be found on the Product Reviews index page. barrel, the rifle for which this load was specifically designed. Powder charges dispense precisely from a powder measure, cutting down on the time loading .223s for the spring gopher campaign. Hornady bullets registered 2,454 fps burning 51.5 grains of the powder from the 22-inch barrel of a Remington Model 700 Whelen. and similar-sized cases is good ol H4895. exceeded its published MV by 59 fps, the Hornady Varmint Express ammo Case length for the .280 is 2.540 inches (same as the .270) and a bit longer than the .30-06 (2.494 inches). Hornady, Remington, and Winchester list new cartridge cases, although the modest popularity of the round makes their availability spotty. Some burn cleaner, some have better load densities, but RL15 stands out as the best in my gun yours may well be different. Oleman All rights reserved. smaller (3-5/16" diameter) bullseyes on each target, which we thought gave us the best aiming precision. A few .12 and .14 calibers emerged, but those of .17 caliber ended up being the most popular. The Western Powders manual lists Hornady 250-grain roundnose bullets with a velocity of 2,500 fps when paired with 52.0 grains of A-2015. The .32-40 and .38-55 blackpowder cartridges came first, as Winchester had not yet perfected harder, nickel-steel barrels for the jacketed bullets that were loaded later in smokeless-powder rounds. From Accurate 5744 to 4350, Accurate offers plenty of powders for varmint hunters, from the substantial .25-06 down to the pocket- sized .17 Fireball. 10 MPH crosswind this bullet will drift 3.3" laterally at 100 yards and I have found that Alliant RL15 has been the most consistent and accurate powder to use. Test handloads for the .35 Remington were assembled with Hornady dies and shellholder No. different brands of ammunition, but to me the most interesting part of The Berger bullets, to date, have all achieved an unblemished record of one-shot kills with tiny entry holes, total expansion within the body cavity and no exits on medium sized, and sometimes smaller, foxes. It's pure poison on deer-size game out to 600 yards. Extreme velocity spreads were fairly low with all three powders: 12 fps with A-4350, 11 fps with H-4350 and 16 fps with IMR-4350. For called-in coyotes, I switch to the 30-grain Berger, but I prefer the 25-grain V-Max for longer shots. That load will print right at 2.25" at 100 yards with me in the Creedmore position. Hornady HP cut a notch in the tailbone segment and the shock killed the darned Coyote. The one I have now is a SAKO A1. The Lee Factory Crimp Die (#90828 for the .35 Rem.) with all common powders and bullets by clicking the "Loads in this caliber" button above. Re: 17 Remington Likes Dislikes [Re: andrews1958] #6836728 All RifleShooter subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. Give a Gift Turning to the Speer FN bullets, the 180-grain version favored a charge of 46.0 grains at 2,316 fps. 100 yards with the 17 Grain V-MAX bullet at a catalog MV of 2550 fps. In the course of accuracy testing the various .17 HMR The 260 Remington is essentially the old wildcated 6.5-08, a 308 necked down to the .264 bullet. September 21st, 2007 17 Rem Fireball Load Data Now Available Hodgdon powder has recently updated its interactive Reloading Data Center to include load information for the new 17 Remington Fireball. bullets farthest apart. The brass is good quality and it's great for reloading, and the loaded ammo isn't much more expensive once fired brass, which is hard to find for the .22 Hornet. The 7mm Remington Magnum rifle cartridge was introduced as a commercially available round in 1962, along with the new Remington Model 700 bolt-action rifle.It is a member of the belted magnum family that is directly derived from the venerable .375 H&H Magnum. 5. This American-made, double-base spherical powder is a slower derivative of A-2230. shooting benches using a Caldwell Lead Sled rifle rest. The .223 Rem can benefit from all the case prep tricks, but good accurate .223 Rem varmint ammo has few secrets. 6.8 Western It never failed, allways shot them behind the shoulder. In a precision-built rifle with a good barrel, the .17 Rem. The CCI A17 load uses a 17 grain Varmint Tip bullet at a claimed MV of 2650 fps and ME of 264 ft. lbs. REMINGTON Premier AccuTip-V: high 2626 fps; low 2591 By that time most of his hearing was gone, and his daughter would answer the phone and relay the conversation back and forth between her father and the caller. Beyond that distance, the Swift was the clear winner at bucking wind and dropping whistle pigs in mid-munch. The maximum COL is 2.525 inches, but I have found that sticking to an even 2.5 inches seems to work best. Available in different sizes and red dot ready, it'll fit your needs, whatever they are. Tried a couple of mid range loads and velocity was way high for the loads. This powder also flows precisely through a powder measure. (Both 15-grain and 18-grain bullets can be loaded faster but you are restricted by barrel length to achieve velocities and erratic bullet performance, blow-ups for instance.). The Rossi RB17 can usually be had for well under $200 but have all the features the .17 HMR crowd looks for including a 21-inch free-float barrel with integrated Weaver-style scope mounts. Today, the .35 Rem. Kindler 30gr Gold bullets and RL-15 takes the .17 Rem to a new level of killing power. All this gives the FTX a higher ballistic coefficient of .300 versus .195 for a roundnose bullet of the same weight. I have experimented with H380, Varget and other powders and they all work well. Remember: Powder charges below those listed in loading manuals are not recommended. (Ret.) While the accuracy with most of them was okay, the velocities of some of these powders were pretty lackluster, and these loads are shown mostly for reference only. Incidentally, in a When introducing the .17 Remington Fireball in 2008, Remington copied the .17 Mach IV case with the exception of a couple of dimensions. Following is a brief description of each of the five If you are shooting magpies, crows or other feathered vermin then a rapidly expanding 15-grain or 18-grain Berger is just the ticket. Copyright 2005 by Chuck Hawks. It is even more flexible when it can benefit from the lengthened sight radius of a long gun, which allows for a more. rifle to do some accuracy testing to discover what load shoots best in * We tested two different Marlin Model 917VS and Ruger K77/17VMBBZ rifles. Without the proper cleaning kit some shooters just left their barrels dirty and through this the stories of inaccuracy and bore-erosion started. Alternatives, getting heavy Lighter and tougher and more precise than ever, it's the perfect back country hunting rifle. Bullet Allinant Reloader 10 @ 16.5 gr. In my opinion, as a dedicated varmint rifle it has a lot to offer the British shooter if used sensibly. this is the loads tested today: H4198 - 4 shot groups at 100 yds . 96 fps; average = 2559 fps. I find that the 25/06 can use any powder that falls between number 112 (IMR 4350) and number 137 (Retumbo) depending on the bullet weight. Today the problem is rectified by properly sourced kit but, as they say, mud sticks. One of the most economical options for a .17 HMR rifle that can still deliver hails from Brazil. Ruger No. The die in the middle is the Lee Factory Crimp Die, and it firmly crimps the case neck into the bullets cannelure, which is essential for consistent ballistics and safe handloads. The .35 Rem. This isn't your grandpa's muzzleloading system. The CCI A17 load uses a 17 grain Varmint Tip bullet at a Thats why, even today, people who talk of the .17 say it dirties barrels, burns out barrels and is affected by the wind because of the lightweight projectile. The accuracy and integrity of the larger 30 grain ensures a better ballistic coefficient and, as such, retains more energy down-range and is better constructed to penetrate foxes yet still expand without any nasty entry wounds, so long as the range is not too long.

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