Ive fallen off the Galibier. He's obsessed with what he thinks is going to happen, preferring baseless speculation to commentating on what is actually happening. Bridport cycles. Eurosports commentator Carlton Kirby has called hundreds of races throughout his career, both on-site and from the studio. We have seen far too much of it - near collisions as much as actual collisions over the past few years. I don't have anything against him personally, but he doesn't seem to get the basics of the sport. and apologises to those who don't. 00:04:00, 29/05/2020 at 08:52 Related Teams have been announced for May's Tour de Yorkshire and the Asda Tour de Yorkshire Women's Race. If you don't like something, how else can you change it - by saying nothing? His cycling life began during his students days, when he cobbled togethera few hundred quidoff the back of a hard winter selling hats (long story) and bought hisfirst road bike - a Trek 1.1 that was quickly relegated to winter steed, before it was sadlypinched a few years later. It is all well having experience, but at some of the smaller races who are the guys riding these bikes? These local mountain bikers tried Athletic Brewing Company's craft beer for the first time, and you'd be surprised by their reactions. They basically work on the principle that people watching cycling in english are only interested in english speaking riders. Eurosport have a lot of these, so theres a lot of conversation going on in your ear [between producers] and its quite a task trying to keep the flow of what you are saying, Kirby says. It is amusing that explaining this is futile, he remarks. Kittel threw his arms up in the air, and lost not only first place, but second, third and fourth..winding up in fifth because of his complaints. pic.twitter.com/bcRWeK1p3o, just merder. Carlton Kirby: 'Joo Almeida, who won't worry anyone in the General Classification'. It is guys sitting on a motorbike who pull up alongside a cyclist and say 'how are you doing?'. Matt Stephens will be Eurosport's dedicated reporter on all Grand Tour coverage, bringing breaking news, updates, and interviews from inside the peloton. For every Nicolas Roche or Steve Cummings great characters, totally locked down there are some savage bastards out there, and we love them all. There's also his lack of knowledge. After a long journeyback to the hotel, often punctuated by Kelly taking media calls especially on the stages he himself would have thrived on during his career its then a debrief over dinner and back to bed for a seven-hour sleep and restarting the process again the next day. He is thinking of five wins, and is finally allowing himself to believe he is going to reach the all-time record of the Belgian all-rounder Eddy Merckx's record for stage wins of 34. And somebody asked me, why dont you pronounce his name Foo-gel-sang instead ofFoolsong. I have been speaking to (former cyclist and Eurosport expert) Sean Kelly about it at various races, and we have both had hold your breath moments. (Clarke is a very good rider, but there is nothing to suggest he SHOULD have won the 2016 M-SR. Watch the race.). Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Even once the race itself is over, and the post-analysis is done, theres a second race to get away from the finish line. Proper all rounder. Copyright 2015-2022 ProCyclingUK - All rights Reserved, 2024 Womens WorldTour Promotion/Relegation Standings, Commentating on cycling is not like snooker or tennis, says Carlton Kirby, Demi Vollering wins Strade Bianche from teammate Kopecky. We dont want this man commentating. Seriously. Can you imagine Paris-Roubaix with Kirby commentating? Jason Kenny has recounted to the BBC the near miss he and his infant son Albie encountered while out cycling last month. I changed to German commentary on eurosport international today I was so mad. But, being in the studio means there is a considerable loss of interaction. During a long interview, the legendary veteran commentator of Eurosports shares some of his knowledge about the job. And then, of course, there are the flat stages and the sprint finishes. Youre at the finish line, essentially watching the TV albeit with extra screens.. If you are not interested you can unsubscribe at any time. As for Kirby - its the arrogance of the bloke - does he think his viewers are 10 year olds who know NOTHING about cycling. Yates was obviously cooked - why else would anyone work for dozens of kilometres and then give up in the final 2km? Live blog: "outrageous claims" - Tao Geoghegan Hart lays into Eurosport commentator Carlton Kirby, cyclists blamed for countryside litter - Twitter responds, Colnago e-bike, Jason Kenny, Jeremy Vine on close-passes, TdY teams, Peloton baby + more. You have a sound wall battle, where theyre shoving one way and were shoving the other while trying to sound calm and interesting on the commentary when actually what you want to do is knock someone out! Tao Geoghegan Hart (@taogeoghegan) March 25, 2019. The races are only on GCN/Eurosport. Would the football fans be subjected to him commentating on the football matches ? Rob Hatch is apparently also good but he doesnt do very much that I've seen. Carlton Kirby is one of the successful names in the industry, recently had been a topic of gossip for good and bad reasons. Always the hardest and most challenging role in such types of games is of a cycling commentator. Also, I would say many of his criticisms are unfair and/or cruel. Mrs John Murphy May 3, 2010 2,662 0 0 Aug 26, 2011. Personally I think Harmon and Brian Smith are the best team. Yeah he does. Harmon's attitude can best be described as 'wogs begin at Calais'. The actual bones of the job are quite similar. One of the most adaptable voices on British Television, as can be seen from hisworking synopsis, Carltons range is wide. A piece of the petition has gained over 542 signatures demanding the removal of Carlton Kirby from Eurosports, citing Unnecessary Screaming, Terrible Jokes as one of the biggest downsides. Kelly will probably kill him by the end. Those are definitely the days when you earn your corn. Kirby is a shockingly bad commentator, but Harmon is not much better. I tweeted quite a few comments which clearly annoyed him. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby has called for action to regulate the role of motor vehicles in the sport following the tragic death of Belgium's Antoine Demoitie, who was. That should have been alarm bells for everyone. After my tweet he at least toned that down. He inspires such devotion that he has his own fan club, yet also is on the receiving end of a petition to get him sacked. The unrelenting, inane chatter (did any of us want to know that his wife had their third child by caesarean section? He suddenly realises how to beat Kittel, working out the formula to finish first. Carlton Kirby: What inspired Chris Froome's golden era Eurosport's voice of cycling Carlton Kirby analyses Chris Froome's performance in winning a fourth Tour de France. Eurosportreports that Kenny expanded on the incident on BBC One today, saying: Someone felt they had right of way and decided that gave them the right to kind of jump on the throttle and drive at us, which was a scary experience. As well as sports commentary his voiceover work includes corporate videos and feature films as well as radio and television advertising. The Kirby CODEC will also be called into action as his followers on Twitter will know. 14 Aug 2020. There are no points for each turn. Joe Robinson. You always get letters or emails from people who really enjoyed your commentary, but youll always get those who hate every fibre of your being.. Carlton learnt his trade as a commentator in Motorsport and Speedway while the holy trinity of Phil Ligget (ITV), David 'Duffers' Duffield (Eurosport) and Hugh Porter (BBC) had all the cycling tied up between them. Eurosport will never get rid of Carlton Kirby, he receives so much fan-mail that it will far out way any negative feedback they get from him. Like in any other sports, being a cycling commentator for a broadcast has its own perks & lows. The concern of course is how much is this going to take out of him before he begins preparations for the Olympic Games next month? Strade Bianche 2023, March 4, one-day classic (men's & women's), 78th Omloop Het Nieuwsblad: February 25, 2023, UAE Tour 2023, February 20-26 (women's race February 9-12), O Gran Camio 2023, Spain, February 23-26, 49th Volta ao Algarve em Bicicleta (2.Pro) // February 15th - 19th 2023, Kuurne-Brussel-Kuurne 2023 February 26, 196 km (1.Pro). Mark Cavendish crossed the line first, and said Kittel came up to slap him in the back. From wrestling with sound walls, coping with dropped audio, working with Sean Kelly and deciphering the Kirby CODEC, we caught up with Kirby midway through the raceto getan insight into life on Tour as a commentator. And hes trying to improve them. For god's sake grow up the man's just doing his job some of it good, some of it bad Is it my imagination or has there been more talk about commentators than cycling on here recently? JavaScript is disabled. He inspires such devotion that he has his own fan club, yet also is on the receiving end of a petition to get him sacked. Ill be making notes when Sean Kellys driving, which can be a difficult thing! Creativelyreplacing it witha Trek 1.2, Jack mostly rides this bikearound local cycle paths nowadays, but when he wants to get the racer out and be competitive hispreferred events are time trials, sportives, triathlons and pogo sticking - the latter being another long story. Help us to make it better. In the mountains, when you have say four significant peaks to climb, the day tells itself and often all you have to do is call it as it happens. While folk littering with gel wrappers is no doubt annoying, is it really up there with fly-tipping? It is not general knowledge, and it should be. Well then I propose a CN forum audio livestream for the tour de france. Like this site? We usually have to drive to the finish line, which is where the commentary positions normally are theyre like double-decker coaches all lined up there, Kirby sayd. I do love the sport because its a crescendo sport. Tech, reviews: tech [at] road.cc Cookies help us deliver our services. join Outside+. Kirby is not uncomfortable with the spurt of social media and the exponential increase of criticism that has gone alongside with it. I don't know the guy but I wish in netherlands we would do it with mart smeets, danny nelissen and herbert dijkstra, who are complete idiots. Its the press guys we see more, because of the mechanics of the day. Kittel did win stage four, but then Cavendish beat him again on stage six. What you are talking about is a place in history. Riders having to get close to a motorbike just to take a corner. You have your usual office equipment, coffee machine, and sandwich machine. VN:When youre at the race, who are you talking to regularly to get your intel for the broadcast? Harmon LOVES cycling, cycling history, and even riders who don't speak English. "In tennis you never talk through a point because the crowd don't. In certain sports, you have to respect the action, and then you comment on it. There are several fan forums that constantly try to have him removed from Eurosport and even made a Carlton Kirby petition their demands on the grounds of inane chatter, terrible jokes, and unnecessary screaming. In their eyes, he is one of the worst cycling commentators. Ive been up the Galibier. Log in or register to join the conversation. Let us know what you think in the comments. and clearly was totally clueless. Before Kirby hits the airwaves, he touchesbase with Eurosport HQ in Paris,and then its time to take to the microphone. Le point sur la situation de Yoann Offredo. Best known for his work on Eurosport, his voice has also appeared on BBC, ITV, Channel 4, Motors TV, Cycling TV, Speed Channel USA, ABC Australia, SABC South Africa, Canal Plus France, Canal France International and more. It is crazy. The Tour forces us to have dinner. And within the second group, he sprints hard, coming 13th overall. The atmosphere fills up with buzz from moment to moment that enthusiasm pushes the words out of the heart. He's probably too much of a joker,not serious enough, but has a 'springy' voice which is good to listen to. You get a sense of the weather a bright morning, going up this morning in a hail storm, and the hailstones are this big. Well, Ill tell you: It makes your view of the race verifiable when youre there. I'm constantly berating or pointing out the danger of the motorcycle. Carlton's voice is familiar to fans of Motorsports and Cycling both on British Television and throughout the world. why must us cyclists have to tolerate a commentator who has no knowledge of professional cycling. pic.twitter.com/MaRgbFKTet, The Ella Roberta Family Foundation (@rosamund_ElsFdn) March 25, 2019, @emmachamberlain at her soul cycling class. He also never tells you who the riders on screen are - and if he does, he's usually wrong. I think it is just individual race directors who decide who gets to ride these bikes. The best thing you can do is relax, in my opinion, Kirby explains about going live on air. Please tell your friends: Ive read so many negative comments about Kirby that unlike most online petitions this one could work. All of this stuff adds to the vrit of the broadcast, and its stuff you cannot get in a studio in London. To show no fear is the best skill of all. Kittel is not a broken man, but his supremacy has tumbled because Mark Cavendish has only gone and won four stages here. hatcher - are you Harmon's mum? You also get a guy filming on the one side of a cyclist, who is then blocking the rider from turning at the right angle into a corner because a motorbike is blocking him. A lot of these guys seems to have free rein on what they are doing. Fantasy Cycling: game [at] road.cc "Beware everybody, he is well and truly back!" yelled Carlton Kirby on Eurosport commentary. He is thinking Champs Elysees. Theyre the best stages, and the most exciting ones, but often as a commentator the days you take the most pride in are actually the ones where absolutely sod all has happened! Theyd often stop too Euskaltel-Euskadi were one of the most common for that, theyd roll to the front, let everyone know it wasnt an attack and then ride up the road to briefly chat to family! 2.4K views, 20 likes, 3 loves, 5 comments, 3 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from Eurosport: "The pictures were all over the news. We caught up with Kirby to learn what is gained for the telecast. As you say, he doesn't shout unnecessarily either. They race ahead, dismount to get the tracking shots they need of the riders. It doesnt take much accomplishment to understand what Kirby is referring to. And he has outthought Marcel Kittel here. Every stage of the Tour de France LIVE on British Eurosport HD. At other broadcasters you still have cue points, but its usually after youve finished making a point [because youre the only commentary team]. That is common in France and Belgium with a dedicated roving reporter from the race roving all over the peloton and having a chat. . I had almost no idea what was going on or who was where. She talks about the background to the petition, which you can sign here, in this video. The problem is that social media has allowed anyone and everyone to voice their opinion, regardless of their credibility. Learn More, Blog: Abusing other cyclists highlights everything wrong with cycling in Britain, Chris Froome backed by strong Team Sky squad for Vuelta a Espana, Vuelta a Espana 2015 route: five stages which could decide the race, Vuelta a Espana 2015: five stages which could decide the race. Even my partner, who doesn't watch cycling, could tell who had won. . You have entered an incorrect email address! We had a heated debate about the incident and then the person drove away. They seem to think that it is enough to just talk about english speaking riders, or to 'emote' any time there is a crash, or a difficult corner. Minutes later, Sean Kelly points out that Padun is 'not getting around the corners well not comfortable whatsoever on the descent'. Nah, Harmon is clued up. To cycling fans, Carlton Kirby's voice has become synonymous with the sport, having become an integral part of British Eurosport's race coverage. See the recording of the last Carlton Kirby Zoomcast hereEnjoy our vintage/summer Parisian Spotify playlist (plus Little Italy by Stephen Bishop, not French, don't write in) hereSee Carlton's And, he is right about it. How can someone who watches so much cycling know so little? One example of his commentary, from 11/3/21 Tirreno-Adriatico: Carlton Kirby: 'Yates is the heart and mind of this breakaway group'. If youve watched Eurosport cycling, you'll know. But Kirby is only interested in his own narrative: McEwen told him twice that Herrada had won, but Kirby kept eulogising about Batistella's 'win', even as Herrada celebrated further coming past the camera. I comfort myself with the fact that there are people out there who actually hate Terry Wogan. You have to say who they are, where they are on the road, what colour theyre in and call the tactics and often all within 30-45 seconds of sheer hell and manic action. Coverage includes enhanced production with access to helicopter, on-board and superslomo cameras. 2008present unless otherwise stated. While cycling commentator Carlton Kirby and his teammates would normally head across the channel for the Tour de France, the recent situation suggests he will be covering the 2020 edition from the Eurosport studios in London. You could hear a pin drop. This afternoon, I yet again, tolerated his insulting drivel on the Dauphine. The Vuelta a Espana used to be the worst of the Grand Tours because theyd have transitions day of 250km across a desert. Can you at least extend our premium subscriptions so we can play all races, until you fix the issue? Some of which have been admitted, some of which weren't. Juan Antonio Flecha and Johnny Hoogerland were sent into barbed wire on the Tour de France because the France TV van was about to hit a tree having a run out of road, but took the softer option of the riders. I make notes of the corners, pinch points, danger points, acceleration points, attack points all of those things.. I've been told to stop having a go at the motorcycles, but it is purely from a safety aspect and sadly this poor guy, who was very a vibrant talent at the age of only 25, has lost his life. Tech in brief: new gear from Shimano, Park Tool, Wahoo and more Tech in brief: new gear from Shimano, Park Tool, Wahoo, Tortec and more Vitus launch three bikes for cyclo-cross season. When asked about the criticism, Kirby opined Its not like the written press where you can write something out and finesse it and shave it, I dont have that gift. He kept on saying, Its gone, its irretrievable. How do you call one of the biggest sporting events on the planet? The commentary line-up will include regular voices Rob Hatch and Carlton Kirby, who will also joined by cycling legend Sean Kelly at all three major races. 2023 Eurosport, a Warner Bros. You can't work commentating on it for as long as he has next to informative ex-pros without some of it getting in through osmosis at the least. Antoine Demoitie tragically died after being hit by a motorbike. Carlton Kirby: 'Joo Almeida, who won't worry anyone in the General Classification'. Riders who perhaps finished tenth on a day will be livid that we didnt eulogise about them, but Im sorry, I was talking about the person who finished first. Punching the handlebars is the almost universal sign of frustration at losing. He threw the toys out of the pram because his head is scrambled by these defeats. VeloNews: Whats the biggest difference for you when youre commentating on a race from back home, instead of attending the event? And its only the past year that we even get to see more than the Tour de France. Hosted by Duncan Steer Carlton Kirby's Cycling Lock-In Radio Days Events Sports NOV 24, 2021 London live show preview! If it goes on for two or three years, then people will notice because the freshness of what is in our heads will ebb. It is amusing that explaining this is futile, he remarks. You can do that by clicking one of these links - TAKES 30 SECONDS: https://help.eurosport.com/hc/en-gb/requests/new, https://help.globalcyclingnetwork.com/hc/en-gb/requests. Kirby has more than two decades as a. The moment you have spoken a word, it is out there on tape and on every news website, forum, and who knows what. Brian Smith is very good and I feel for him having to listen to Kirby's dumbfounding comments. As a small example, he started talking to Magnus Backstedt about tyre widths the other day ("weren't you the 27 mm guy?") Or at least diminished. (@StasaZlatanovic) March 24, 2019. Every time she fought back from a coma we were warned. The One Subscription to Fuel All Your Adventures. because there wuld be an uprising in the country. I am very sorry but he is just nowhere near the standards of messrs. Liggett, Boulting, Miller and Hatch. But it is also true that there isnt a dearth of genuine fans of Kirby who really appreciate his vast knowledge on the field. We need to get to tomorrows finish line, and sometimes that is a four-hour drive. You sit there, its often quite quiet, and you get brought an exotic meal like a guacamole sandwich. Its a whole other much more positive view of commentators as a whole. As a Post Graduate Broadcast Journalist Carltons Television career began with the BBC as a News and Sports Reporter. Various types of distractions are always ready for a commentator. Kirby says he opens the Tours road book (the bible for riders and media alike) first and foremost, having to change all of the notes to match his commentary notes and the on-screen graphics counting down the kilometres, rather than up as the book does. However, a lot of his fans understand this and support him. Don't miss a moment from Paris-Roubaix and Unbound Gravel, to the Giro dItalia, Tour de France, Vuelta a Espaa, and everything in between when you And if you ever thought the job of the commentator was easy, think again, with the ability to multi-task a key skill for anyone working in live television. He has been commentating on the Tour de France since 2009, and his deep knowledge of the race and the riders makes him one of the most respected commentators in the sport. Driver escapes punishment for alleged hit-and-run on cyclist, as victim blasts police inaction and barriers to justice. So, our information can be slightly second-hand. Colnago is using social media to tease the arrival of its new E64 Performance, which well go out on a limb and guess is the companys attempt to tap into the rapidly growing e-bike market. You don't need to be that close to the riders to get snaps. Unlike other sports, the practicalities of cycling dont change, and doing this remotely is not at all a good idea, but the situation makes all helpless. Valverde gets it very, very wrong!" exclaimed . We have Sean Kelly, Stephen Roche, Magnus Backstedt, Dean Downing, Rob Hayles and David Harmon (who although is not the best at least it seems he is really doing some research and background checks on the riders and teams - he is clearly learning from Kelly as they sit in the box)but Kirby doesnt even do any background research. The rest is very monotonous and quite naturally the onus of filling that gap falls on the commentator. Carlton Kirby As a Post Graduate Broadcast Journalist Carlton's Television career began with the BBC as a News and Sports Reporter. Thus, the commentary that you hear wont come from the finish line, but rather from some television studio thousands of miles away. For all those who can't stand Kirby's 'commentary' (must be everyone on Bikeradar? For mine, Carlton is the perfect commentator for the 'early shift' on long, flat grand tour stages. Thankfully, no tree roots to overcome. On the descent, motorbikes often get too close to the cyclist in front of them. Antoine Demoitie was tragically killed by a motorcyle at the age of 25. How much longer do the cycling public have to suffer the idiotic commentary from Carlton Kirby ?? As for the Sky Team Fans member - you wouldnt actually be Mr Kirby would you ???? There are many great cycling commentators around at the moment, Im afraid Kirby isnt one of them. A new bike is coming very soon! I am having this problem too. He is rubbish Eurosport have many other far better options we need a decent commentator not Carltons partridge esque musings. A mile from home, looked behind me, moved to the centre of the lane, stuck my arm out to turn right, got Editorial, general: info [at] road.cc A football match lasts for hardly ninety minutes, a rugby match is over in eighty minutes, whilst a basketball game takes only thirty-eight minutes to finish. Thomas De Gendt launched a solo attack from the break with 60 kilometres remaining of todays opening stage of the Volta a Catalunya, covering 163 kilometres and starting and finishing in Calella and the Lotto-Soudal rider now finds himself with a lead of almost three minutes on his rivals. Carlton Kirby discusses the art of commentary, says thank you to those who enjoy listening to him. Continuing our discussion of 2020's cancelled/postponed races continues, Eurosport bon viveur Carlton Kirby discusses why riding up Swiss mountains is easier than riding up French mountains; villages accessible only by ladder; the world's highest lighthouse; 70s balladeer Gilbert O'Sullivan; human . More often than not they slip into commentary which is at best nationalistic, and at worst xenophobic. People were saying track preparation knocks you back for the sprint because it is a different form of physicality that is needed. Doesn't look that pretty, cable tied, very practical. Ive just turned Catalunya on and hes already come out with I think he fell victim to his agent, so now hes at x team. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby presents a weekly guide to everything that's NOT happening in the sport . Yep, thats my pick. I'm not sure if they have forgotten about the rule, or if it was always just advisory. Painting a verbal picture of a five-hour race is stream of consciousness, and to be able to do that effectively, you just need to be there. You can get every picture you need from in front of the peloton. Thanks to all who have signed. Were literally opening up Sean Kellys cranium to learn the nuances of the sport, and he comes out and says which guy is going to go on and win the next day. CK:I think not many people will notice. Kirbys Knowledge and Enthusiasm on the Mic is Unparalleled, When Kirby explains the difficult process of commentating on cycling, Michael Matthews powers to Bretagne Classic victory, Bora-hansgrohe riders false positive raises new doubts over accuracy of COVID-19 testing, Giro dItalia, Milan-San Remo under threat of cancellation due to coronavirus, Ewan storms to victory on stage 2 of UAE Tour. You might remember an 'interpretive spinning' vid doing the rounds on social media a few weeks ago. 27/8/22: Stage 7 of the Vuelta, Herrada wins the sprint and has his arm in the air in celebration. But he's British and that's all that matters to Kirby. They only received compensation a couple of years later. ). According to the Telegraph, cyclists and joggers could be targeted as part ofa new Government initiative to work out who is leaving waste behind in countryside. Tony Martin scared everybody with his breakaway, says Etixx chief. Thus concentrating becomes a difficult job for a commentator.

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