Just had fun. Ghee, Brandon 4.45 Also, a sprinter such as Usain Bolt, the comparison runner of choice these days, still will be accelerating 20 yards past the 40-yard mark in a 100-meter dash. <> Their results in the various drills will be available almost instantaneously on NFL.com. Maybe one day Usian can hold 11 world records concurrently? Instead the whole point of the 40 yard dash is because the average amount of yards for a kick is 40 yards and a player needs at least 5 seconds to run there and get the ball before the other team does, so they needed a fast starting time with their top speed. Of course, they have quite a bit of cash at stake depending on their performance. You might be 100 percent correct but who are you disputing? Williams, Kyle 4.43 Top-10 lists of the best times and distances in the various combine drills go back to 1999. 100m sprinters are often fastest at just that distance 100 meters, not 40 yards. - Gold Academy If you have a 100-yard dash time, divide it into 205 to get an approximate miles per hour speed. If you have a 14 second 100-yard dash, you are going about 14.6 mph. Graham, Jimmy 4.56 The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for anonymous statistical purposes. The 49ers also grabbed 2. Moeaki, Tony 4.69 The NFL Scouting Combine starts this week, and the fastest of the pro football prospects will be sprinting to beat the 40-yard time of East Carolina running back Chris Johnson, who flashed across the distance in 4.24 seconds in 2008. That makes a grand total of 8.75 + 0.12 = 8.87 seconds for an approximate 100 yard dash. So dont post something if you clearly havent done your research. Your assumpions are flawed. )$cB:$H1oFQ_fGK^)44mSxC;S&_C}='~sn*{mMOApa,AR]o3A0[/~l5maj8-0fr They have the exact same table for both 30 meters AND 40 yard dash (~37 meters) test. SHIN SPLINTS REDUX - Time Heals All Heels, Jim Hiserman - Developing 800m Runners: Identifying, Categorizing and Developing 400m-800m Type Athletes, Jim Hiserman - Developing Distance Runners Volume 2: A Systematic Approach to Developing Individual Success within a Dynamic Team Culture, Tony Holler's "Feed the Cats" Complete Sprint Training Program, Bud Winter & Arthur Lydiard MP3 [Download only]. To Joey Fowler You are absolutely correct in your assumptions. Instead, they begin running when they are ready. So I trained like a 400/800 guy for a bit, came back and had a huge PR in the 200 go figure. I think this is a good point, but I dont think athletes at the combine in trainers lose more than 0.1, and probably less, relative to sprinters trained to use spikes. Put any footballer on the starting line with Bolt, have them electronically timed, and then have them start when the gun goes off, so that reaction time also gets included, and I guarantee you that Bolt will bury them in the 40 yard dash. Then again, some 100 meter races are won and lost during those last 8.5 meters! Also, Jackson told ESPN's Dan Lebatard in 2012 that he ran a 4.13-second 40at the 1986 combine that was electronically timed. Why is it so far fetched to think that a football player could post the same or possibly even better 40 time than a world class 100m sprinter ? Plus you have to figure out how to train that particular athlete. Convert. If you as a coach dont believe in the 30-40 training theory then say it! Even if you did it with the blocks, re time it. Sapp, Ricky 4.70 For the curious, Bolt's world-record 9.58-second 100 meters would be a 3.50 40 when converted in the same manner. This is simply due to the fact of reaction time. ?lg|s{8-k3GPf>2S1mc95&-4s3tG+Wod`f'kS|O.oz[,^0gj.w#hu=Lgw4yb8o}?dma>MoM;7r39'6O~y/'CHI$"hX<74^utHX]>?i4 H!-c3XIvE?=)! Reaction time for the very best is 0.12-0.18 seconds and then a bit more for movement through the laser. Type in the time or mark in the blank above, select the event or function from the drop down menu, and click convert. That of course is rediculous. Maybe, even though it isn't the fastest 40 time recorded at the combine. If the 4 phases are equal, then I would calculate using 9.15m splits to equal 36.6 meters. The technical storage or access is strictly necessary for the legitimate purpose of enabling the use of a specific service explicitly requested by the subscriber or user, or for the sole purpose of carrying out the transmission of a communication over an electronic communications network. As a coincidence, the formula actually worked for me. 1 0 obj it is widely used by the running community due to its ease of use and accuracy. You can argue how fast John Carlos 9.1 would be if he had better spikes, better training, and faster tracks, but Ill save that for the documentary. I quite agree that the first pass comparison (subtract start, find average speed, extrapolate, add back start) is too simple to make accurate comparisons, and misses the boat for the 60y or 60m dashes because the finish line comes before the end of the acceleration phase for the top sprinters (but just barely) and there is no Maintenance in those races. Dont you hate it when you look at the splits, subtract their reaction time, and calculate Ben Johnson only ran 4.37 and Usain Bolt ran 4.35? World class sprinters do not reach there max speeds until 50-60 meters because THEY ARE world class srinters. The 40 yard dash was an arbitrary number, just like the 72 ounce steak "eat in 1 hour and it's free" in Amarillo Texas on Route 66. 10.06 for 100m converts to 40 Yard Dash = 04.19. I have been with the so called NSCA and what ever certification you want to call it, level 1-3 usatf and they are funny. Chances are, guy A is gonna run a better 400m all things being equal training wise. Why? You say you cant extrapulate a forty from a spit time and even if you could it isnt an accurate reflection of their potential 40 because the dont train for the forty. Explains all the steps and why they took them. The assumption has been that Jackson's 4.12 was a hand-timed 40. Hello Aaron, 50.32 is a good time for 400 meters if it was eletronic time. Then, For Male athletes = (Time for 40 yards 10) + 2 seconds For Female athletes = (Time for 40 yards 10) + 4 seconds Thus, for a man, a 4.6 40 yard dash is (4.6 seconds x 10) + 2 = 48.0 it is widely used by the running community due to its ease of use and accuracy. Why work on improving 0.10 seconds when you can improve 1.0 seconds?). Best, Jahvid 4.35 Worilds, Jason 4.72 Kyle Brazeil, Contact Us The sprinter was known for his great starts, and was timed at 3.97 in the 40 yrd distance. According to Clyde Hart Michael Johnson rarely did speed work and much of his routine looks like 400/800 or at least a 400mh. There is no fixed rule. By any reasonable calculation, he should be able to run 2 (20.7) 200 meter segments, if he were fit. It's not true electronic timing because while the clock is stopped electronically at the finish line, it's started by hand on the first movement by the runner. Dividing 12.1 by 91.44, we obtain And counting. The chart is a fun illustration for discussion purposes. 3.674s (the first 30m) + 0.57s (the final 6.576m) = 4.24s 4.24s - 0.10s (the recorded "fastest" reaction time) = 4.14 second 40-yard dash Consenting to these technologies will allow us to process data such as browsing behaviour or unique IDs on this site. he didn't let up, didn't appear to slow down, but they were still gaining speed and he wasn't. [deleted] 2 yr. ago. Ford, Jacoby 4.28 Capers, Selvish 5.14 The problem is World class sprinters take longer to reach top speed because they have a longer acceleration phase. The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for statistical purposes. That you cannot measure with a stop watch or electronics. It seems to me that it would be much more accurate to find the coraltion between 40 times and 400 times if you took elite 400 meter runners (who are close to their potential) and time them in the 40 yd dash.I would asume that a collegite athlete that can run a 48 or 47 400 could easily run a 4.8 or 4.7 40;at the same time im sure their are plenty of high school kids that can run a 4.6 40 that could not run better than a 50. or 49. quarter. If you need to estimate measurements quickly when you are out and about, download the Moasure App. Then walk in normal mode and count the number of steps done. and a quarter horse. Robinson, Zac 4.71 Then, Thus, for a man, a 4.6 40 yard dash is (4.6 seconds x 10) + 2 = 48.0. Put another way, sow me ANYONE who is capable of reaching his maximum speed by 30 meters and I will show you someone who is without question NOT a world class sprinter. I believe he was the first to break the 6 second barrier in the 60 yard dash. Mary was correct about the rationale for the 40 yard test, you can look it up. Keep it up I am looking forward to see new features being added. Also,it is very disrespectful for any coach to interfear with another coach athletes even if they are not in training season. o'KS@1 LX[Nn1hetZ0SIN`*`M`_e0&&2hAa1cu *BuB1;]KX[P>+^ZqhAha*;-A] DY'g+]^~Kn-(](E DHvE2RPt@(L(I M^h=Gnd$$Fp e(+H}Z\yTVPt0w]t2LVQ'9*Q}R0SWB*`s:g%!$}a )ZlXX|g: 100 meters, and then rounding to the nearest tenth of a second, the final Teams that drafted the player with the best time by position in this years NFL draft: Quarterback Jarrett Brown San Francsicso not drafted but signed Multiplying this answer by the race distance of 330-yard LH to boys 300-meter LH subtract .2 sec. Los Angeles Raiders running back Bo Jackson carries the ball against the Seattle Seahawks during an NFL game on Dec. 1, 1987. Without a subpoena, voluntary compliance on the part of your Internet Service Provider, or additional records from a third party, information stored or retrieved for this purpose alone cannot usually be used to identify you. Miller, Lonyae 4.53 There has been a lot of buzz on how fast Usain Bolt could run a 40 yard dash, which were fuelled by the Chris Johnsons recent 40 yard challenge to determine the Worlds Fastest Man. In 1964, Bob Hayes set the WR of 9.1 seconds for 100 yards which was equaled by John Carlos in 1969. Rivals.com put together this chart a few years back, it's not a bad estimator. We are looking at 3.9 to 4.0 hand time performances! 2023 Copyright 100y = 09.2. Then again, the WR for the standing long jump is held by a shot putter, and not a long jumper! There is a huge difference between hand times( football)and electronic times (sprinters). The other measurement, in these calculations, which is not exact is the 3.28 feet. You certainly explained it much more succinctly than I did when I broached the subject with you. Convert a 40-yd or 100-yd Dash Time to MPH? Sorry reconditioned should read deconditioned. The NFL.com database on the combinestarts with the 2006 workouts. There is obviously a cross-over between the two sports. As a formal coach, When training anaerobic alactic first, It helps the sprinter to develop proper running mechians and I have never had a sprinter to pull when training from short to long. I could've done much better. Put another way still, the only way for a world class sprinter to be capable of reaching maximum speed at 30 meters is to become reconditionedhardly a way to improve you 40 time. As soon as he starts, the clock starts. But thats nothing new for them as Speed City was right down the road in San Jose. In recent years, Jackson's 40 has been a subject of comparison to the times of world-class sprintersto show, oddly enough, that he couldn't have run that time and that he most certainly could have. I ended up bein an ok 60 sprinter 6.4 in college. And if you have you only want the elite athletes.I have been coaching track and field for the past 7 years and I have discovered a workout that really works and the results for the 100 meters is 10.50 or better in 6 months and 21.15 for the 200 meters.If you have a guy that runs 11.2 and can bech about 200-225 he should be able to run these times. The 40 yard dash is similar: your goal is to get to the 40 yard line as fast as possible from a motionless position. @ money im in the la city area & its 165 right now not sure about the squat. is 50.32 a good 400m for a 10th grader i was 15 at the time now im goin to the 11th grade next month. Cookie Preferences / Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information, Generated by 10.1.2.230 fresh in 61 milliseconds, Who's Entered At NBNI? Cornerback Brandon Ghee Cincinnati 3rd round After reading the comments, I double checked the reference and I think they made a mistake. One of the things that really bugged me about this post was the fact the the author claimed that the 40 yard dash was an arbitrary number like the coaches choosed that number at random. If you want to see some sample elite times for the 100 yards, Track and Field News has a nice compilation of the History of US National Championships results for the 100 yards and meters. But possible some are legit. This app is amazing it really helps me in my math class. As kids develope on many different levels. Cory Mull, Contact Us Jackson, Kareem 4.48 [Tweet Usain Bolt and Ben Johnson : 40 Yard Dash Times]. Hughes, Jerry 4.69 You guys are acting like professional football players are just a bunch of muscleheads/entertainers playing a game and that they dont focus on speed like sprinters do when the exact opposite is true. Whats the big deal with numbers? The 40 yard dash was an arbitrary number, just like the 72 ounce steak eat in 1 hour and its free in Amarillo Texas on Route 66. Spiller, C.J. Harbor, Clay 4.69 I understand your desire to contribute, Mary, but you are wrong on numerous levels beginning with your understanding of football. There's your answer. What event was it. Griffen, Everson 4.66 I was great even at an early age at the first 10-20 yards but lack body/muscle mass at longer distances to keep accelerating and maibtain speed. 100m to 40 yard dash converter - An 11.5 100m dash does not equate to a 4.4. too much on trying to convert to a 40 time rather than on finding top speed. In the second instance, the 400 meter race has a large component of fitness (stamina). Berry, Eric 4.47 That is, 100 yards is equal to 91.44 meters (making Jerry, John 5.15 But bottom line is guys like Carl and Donovan are still running 100% between 0 and 40m. 2. I am a Masters Athlete and Coach currently based in London UK. The tracks now are rubber and lively. McCourty, Devin 4.48 Formula to convert forty yard times to miles per hour mph = 3600 / (4.50 * 44) Substitute in your forty yard dash time in seconds mph = 3600 / 198 Calculate the brackets to get the number of seconds it would take to run a mile mph = 18.18 Divide the number of seconds in an hour, 3600, by your time per mile, 198. I tried to do things the opposite way when I first came back (to masters), and just succeeded in hurting myself. LeFevour, Dan 4.66 For example, take Tate, Ben 4.43 The (400 meters is mostly a speed endurance race), that is why most sub (44)400 meters runners can run under 1:15 in the 600 meters. Im in the northern Sacramento area. I ran 4.61 electric for 40 yards my sophomore year of college and ran 48.4 my senior year. Acceleration is a skill and talent that not everyone has. endobj While the 10m will be an average time, it is assumed that the athlete is actually holding speed throughout the sprint. Im making this assessment of your comments as someone who has participated and supported football programs for at least 4 decades. Convert 40y to 100m conversion - I had no idea how fast some of these guys are! Maybe a more compact leaner mass/body to leg ratio body type may be better suited or maybe a larger as many big defensive line men can blast good 20-40 yards but perhaps if leeaner, not sure, but thats why I think many high schoolers , 8th grade and up can turn in a good 40 yrd. 9x+2y=39 6x+13y=9""". Speed/acceleration/explosiveness are usually THE most important factors in football. Sorry, but I think yours was the least civil tone in this whole discussion. On the next WC, I would like to see the IAAF setup 2 finish lines with the first one at 91.44 meters. Do you believe slit times are never used in training, rather only on the day of competition so spectators can muse over them and speculate about potential 40 times? mile medley relay to 1600-meter medley relay subtract 1.2 sec. The combine's football players run in cleats on a synthetic playing field (in Jackson's case in 1986, Astroturf). Just curious, I dont really understand your post beyond the fact that you have been able to coach some kids to run fast and apparently the rest of the world has not. Nut as a jr high and high school football player did not have the size or strength, and just relied on my speed and agility, which others catch up later on to. As a busy student, I appreciate the convenience and effectiveness of Instant Expert Tutoring. 100 Meters Elastic Power and Strength Test Correlation, Tyson Gays Manchester 150m Post Race Analysis, Jim Hiserman - Developing 800m Runners: Identifying, Categorizing and Developing 400m-800m Type Athletes, Jim Hiserman - Developing Distance Runners Volume 2: A Systematic Approach to Developing Individual Success within a Dynamic Team Culture, Tony Holler's "Feed the Cats" Complete Sprint Training Program, Bud Winter & Arthur Lydiard MP3 [Download only]. Weatherspoon, Sean 4.68 It's extremely unlikely to believe such a huge 0.2s discrepancy in a distance of 30 meters compared to the very best in the world. Since this is the case, you can't just do a mathematical extrapolation. If it's a short-legged 5-5 guy with great reactions vs. a long-legged 6-2 one, the short guy may beat the big guy to the 40 point every time, but be left yards behind by the time you get to the 100 . For example: 155-6.5 would be 155 feet and 6.5 inches. The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for anonymous statistical purposes. And the trophy for the league has been around for 100 years! Type in the time or mark in the blank above, select the event or function from the drop down menu, and click convert. Yes, many 100m sprinters obviously have fast 40 times but, more often than not, their fastest times come after a full 100 meters, not 40 yards. You can take his last 10m segment (0.83 sec) and multiply that by 0.144 to get 0.1195 seconds. It would be off the charts if HB, BJ and company trained for the 40. Reaction, Acceleration, Transition, Maintenance this way of seeing the 100 m is, in my view, both accurate AND telling when it comes to comparing sprints of different distances.

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