The property is beautiful and the . During your stay you will see hundreds of antelope. The highest-elevation areas are generally part of the Medicine Bow-Routt National Forest, state land and Bureau of Land Management property. But even that may not be a silver bullet. Bring back the wolves and they will take care of the elk. Wyoming Outfitter License #281 (Licensed and Insured) We are a Equal Opportunity Employer. Laramie Peak/Muddy Mountain Herd, which has averaged somewhere between double and triple, hunt planning website geared toward public land hunters, willing to fork over as much as $12,000 to $16,000, granting Wyoming residents a higher percentage, state-administered hunting management program, State investigates massive methane release, With budget, governor, Legislature land on same fiscal page, Legislative committee meets behind closed doors with railroad, Wyomings soon-to-drop shed hunting rules set new precedent, Proudly powered by Newspack by Automattic. Went on our own. the monopoly is over. While on a hunt with us you will be with an experienced professional guide who will work to make your Wyoming hunt one that will not be surpassed by any other, no matter the species. What the ranchers and outfitters need to know is, we see through you right through you and you probably wont find much sympathy here. Or $16000. were fed up with you trying to block legal access to public land. Wyoming Outfitters and Guides Association. The Ranch is a 20,000+ acre privately owned outfitting and cattle Ranch. There are areas of the range that are an hour from Rock River, hour from Douglas, hour from Wheatland. 1.) HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY. Home. Ranchers need to stop complaining about too many elk when they wont let public hunters onto their land to hunt. Back in the 1960s, Binfet said, there were few enough elk in the region that managers even augmented numbers by releasing elk captured from the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem. Hense cows. Please call us prior to applying for a hunting license. Toggle navigation. Best meat in the world and the women would use the hide and Elk teeth, problem solved. These hunts are done on private ranches with great antelope populations. But none of this will be as benificial as Wolves. But he knows those options will never be popular. We killed all the wolves back in the 1920s . Hopefully one day, I will have the chance to kill one of these animals (for the meat) Im not concerned if its a trophy bull, Id gladly take a cow/calf. When its that hard to draw a tag, you almost have to keep your quality up or youre not going to be able to convince guys to use 12-plus years of preference points, let alone pay the money.. Along with his wife, Bonnie, and daughter, Eden, Josh makes ends meet by working with . THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD WISH TO VENTURE FURTHER INTO BACK WOODS AREAS HAVE TO WALK MILES TO GET THERE, NOT ALL PEOPLE ARE CAPABLE MEDICALLY. And theres the common belief held in WY, here I quote a Rock Springs BLM manager, Theres no elk anymore because of the wolves. Whaaa? Wagonhound Outfitters offers elite trophy hunts in the heart of the Laramie Mountain range. Is there to many elk? Sure, it would take time. Its enough of an issue that a statewide task force is exploring changes to how the Wyoming Game and Fish Department issues licenses that would increase hunting pressure on herds holed up on private land. Thread starter backsmasher23; Start date Jul 14, 2015; Jul 14, 2015 #1 B. backsmasher23 Member. Then they get the damage checks from government!! During the fall 2021 hunt, hunters killed approximately 160 elk on the ranch. CUBED Naturals That is, if youve left enough forage and clean water sources for the wildlife. Its not good. In Colorado it takes six years to draw a bull license and three for cows. Come join us and experience the hunt of a lifetime . Done. A cardinal rule of landscape scale ecology is every herbivore needs a complement carnivore(s). Yours is without a doubt the best! Have a special hunt and invite people from around the whole country to cull out the heard. The basic question is why does the State of Wyoming have the right to graze the publics elk on private land without the landowners approval or involvement in determining the elk population numbers? Rawhide Creek Ranch offers both Rifle and Archery hunting. It is a great benefit in all four units to secure access to horses. My suggestion is to have two separate hunts. Sharp shooting will always be apposed by some, but the meat can feed many in need and the cost of processing can be covered by less direct payments to land owners for crop damage. Game and fish will increase landowner tags if Landowners let X amount of people per additional tag to hunt starting on November for cow/calf. Basically, the Outfitter is a store keeper, yet we the people supply the wildlife on the shelf almost for free and pitch in shelf stockers (the Game & Fish) to make sure the Outfitter is fully stocked. I think there is a simple fix. All data is private and will not be shared with third parties. We do, so can they. Tom- the northern herd of Elk in Yellowstone was in serious need of depopulation. (307) 358-9828 Phone. The only time they break up is to calve, and then they join back up.. I totally agree about the system wanting to kill off all our wolves, when they are the answer. The accumulative loss of food for the species the Grants are intending to grow would be a big hit if not for a Wyoming Game and Fish Department compensation program. If you were an elk, where would you go?! The elk were there but they ran for private ground West of the area the Grants own. The fast and nimble elk or the slow and hefty domestic cattle?! Someone mentioned that its a racket.right on! Isnt that putting the fox in the hen house? The landowner is creating the problem by not welcoming hunters into their property. I dont think setting off bombs will do. Trout Creek Ranch. I would be happy to come up to your Beautiful State to shoot some Elk. Ive read many articles and potential options on both over and under population issues for all types of wildlife for 50 years. This is a privilege for me. Let the sportsman on and they will fix your problem! Wolves, bears, chronic wasting disease, brucellosis and starvation will eventually thin the herds. Or not. There just seems to be too many elk on the private property. Want to join the discussion? The WGF take public money and pay ranchers to close out hunters under the ideals of allowing. Game and Fish already has the ability to do this by regulation. Guess that just seems like a logical way to handle things. Partly, that emphasis is because there are a limited number of hunters willing to fork over as much as $12,000 to $16,000 for five days of bull elk hunting. Units 56, 58, and 59 all are considered late season trophy hunts. Very rough country. I also speak as a Hunter farmer rancher biologist ecologist. Wow, Sy, for a guy who profits off the back of the Wyoming taxpayer, that was a bizarre and laughable thing to say, but of course its all posturing for your rancher buddies. Bunch of idiots on here talking about releasing wolves you can immediately tell they are out of state trolls! But with a little work and effort, you can access public land. So why is it the rest of the people paying for your land locked public and over priced guided hunts. If you dont like elk on your property allow hunting. that was the old generation the beautiful people. I think if they allowed free access on their property and the Wyoming division of wildlife would generate more tags there wouldnt be a problem. Your license fees are to out of line in price and not enough out of state tags. PINEDALE (WNE) Timberline Lodge owner and hunting guide Melanie Peterson pleaded not guilty to 19 charges alleging she violated Wyoming Game and Fish hunting regulations over the past decade. Because the wolves will decimate the deer herds and other animals as well as elk. Taxpayer funds are not used to feed them only funds from license sales. I dont and cant see the problem. 5) rancher cries about all the elk yet, when the neighbor kid asks for permission to hunt, nope is all they get were fed up with your bought legislature. Required fields are marked *. Discover the facilities and accommodations that we offer and the different ways we cater to our clients during huntings trips. Videos and photos are an absolute must. Theyve toyed with using propane bombs to spook off the herds, and have left radios playing by haystacks. Quit paying the ranchers. Tags are over $800 for a slim chance of getting an Elk. Its not the same range it was 20 years ago, far more open range, far fewer trees and few trees coming back. Also change age limits for hunting licenses costs for people over 65 with a drop in costs. WG&F is a government organization, slow to react. There is to much red tape hunting elk in area 7! Its a racket!!! The state could help with grants. Ken. In bygone days Elk were a plains animal, then wolves drove them into the mountains. Stop killing off all of the natural predators like mountain lions, bears, wolves and coyotes. With Wyomings policy of all-out war against predators, Im not surprised there are too many elk in this area. Lots of misconceptions in these comments: At Big Horn Outfitters, we offer fully guided archery and rifle elk hunts in Wyoming hunt areas 34, 35, 36 and 45. All the other ranches dislike them. West bought the Monster Lake Ranch, which . Everything is great until someone or something destroys your livelihood. Outside of their designated habitat the wolves are designated as a predator by the LEGISLATURE OF WYOMING and this isnt about to change. Availability for this hunt is very limited. Roughly 3,000 head of bison live the good life on a family ranch south of Gillette . We have multiple options for private land and public land DIY and Drop Camp hunts. People like you should think before speaking, 130 year old ranch is in dire straits because of overpopulation and mismanagement, the elk will eventually will get disease, Mother Nature has a way of taking care of these kinds of problems, but it comes with a price. Allow the Crow Indians to hunt the Elk. If it were simple, it would already be fixed, said Sweetwater County resident Josh Coursey, a professional mule deer advocate who co-chairs the Wyoming Wildlife Taskforce. I think most hunters would love access even if its by foot. It seems a bit crazy to me that this never mentions the lack of natural predators as a cause and probable solution to this issue. I WAS A RESIDENT OF WYO FOR 3 YRS AND MOVED BACK TO COLORADO AND HUNT NON RESIDENT IN WYO. It took a ton of resources from the ranch and manpower and fuel.. Please check the availability page. Its not rocket science! Lets see, Sy, if you want to talk about destroying.how about the ranchers cattle that have decimated the range, forests and streams? He purchased roughly 3,500 acres southwest of Laramie Peak, dubbed the Windy Peaks Ranch, that entitles him to two landowner elk licenses a year. Built back in 1929, The Snake River Ranch is the largest deeded ranch in Jackson Hole. One thing to remember is that the public ground is the publics and the Animals on it are the peoples. . They want to grow and harbor large trophy animals so they can charge outfitters more for their coveted landowner tags. Most hunters kill with as little suffering as possible to the animal. We provide unequaled, 100% fair chase hunting opportunities to a limited number of discriminating hunters each . Rancher graze public lands then public should be able to hunt the private property. Im going to reply to my own comment, couple of additional thoughts. *WyoFile does not fact check every comment but, when noticed, submissions containing clear misinformation, demonstrably false statements of fact or links to sites trafficking in such will not be posted. It is also so easy to fix. Hunters and ranchers both being difficult , disrespectful and down right mean. The state does not care about locals, just big money. One during regular season . The Wagonhound Ranch, at around 300,000 acres, is roughly the same size as Grand Teton National Park. $35,000,000. This is not a physically demanding hunt. We will guide you into the area at the . 1) ranchers rent public land at a cost of about 4.5 CENTS per day per Cow/Calf pair Most ranchers use the elk as a money making tool via the outfitters then have the gall to cry when the elk numbers get excessive. Our guides have led hunters to numerous Wyoming Outfitters and Guides Association awards for well over a decade. I dont feel sorry for them. Please feel free to email our Guest Relations Department using this form for any questions you might have about booking a trip or the details of one of our many activities. We hunt creek bottoms, side draws, and the "Pine Ridge", an area with lots of pine trees and . One of the figures Ive heard for pipelines crossing private land is $50,000 per mile. I am sure families who need the meat to feed their families would help out. Recommendations that emerged from the task force in the first year changed state law, granting Wyoming residents a higher percentage of moose, bighorn sheep, mountain goat, bison and grizzly bear hunting licenses. . Private landowners such as in this case, are severely limited in their ability to control over grazing by the publicly owned elk because Game and Fish tightly controls the number of hunting licenses if Game and Fish would sell the landowners several hundred elk licenses per year and let the landowners bring in the hunters the elk population could be reduced. Nevertheless, the Laramie Mountains remain renowned for producing trophy-class bull elk. If your cattle, sheep or horses trespass on your neighbors ranch for awhile you may be required to pay the the trespassed landowner for loss of forage he can actually file a feeding lien against your animals and wont allow you on to his land to retrieve them until the lien is paid. WY has a great start with Access YES! From the lodge to my guide, AJ Henson, and ever other person there, it was amazing!, The hunt exceeded all my expectations! Archery Antelope Hunts. Cross C Ranch. It cant be both. 6) rancher outfits the wildlife, profiting handsomely off the back of the taxpayers and sportsman The cattle introduced brucellosis to the wild ungulates. *Individual commenters are limited to three comments per story, including replies. There are also limited licenses to go around. A few big ranches become sanctuaries for the elk. If there is no public access there should be no deprivation money. Im not any happier about this than they are, however this is what happens:/. Please contact the developer of this form processor to improve this message. You suggest that the publics wildlife are trespassing.no, its up to the rancher to fence out the elk. If your running your own guide services, your managing your own elk herd. Dont let that happen there. Do not charge so much! Yet their families, friends and public employed seem to be allowed in. Tired of hearing about the struggling story of ranchers and over populated elk. The Wyoming Frontier Prison was used for almost 80 years, starting in 1901, and is considered one of the state's most haunted places. Home. There are too many competing desires($$$). I hope that some day we would be able to. The wildlife is owned by the people, yet the Outfitter gets to leverage both the wildlife and the Game & Fish in management and making available an inventory of animals. Call or Text LANDiO anytime at 866-8-LANDiO (866-852-6346) for questions or to purchase this property. It has not had a solution, but I hope this ruling changes it. For a cattle rancher, coexisting with an abundance of elk isnt easy. They were down eating the green alfalfa starting to grow.. WE OFFER 6 SPECIES TO HUNT HERE AT THE CROSS C RANCH. This 300000 acre so called ranch should be forking out some cash to all the ranchers that have the problems with elk. So your saying release a bunch of wolves so they can savagely rip about thousands of cows and calves. (Wyoming Game and Fish Department/Courtesy). They are hell bent on getting rid of wolves to protect their cattle from the occasional wolf foray at calving time. Some camps you can drive your vehicle to and others we horseback you in. Also I know enough people who would jump at the chance to kill an elk for the meat. They feed the elk all winter and the elk go on the Park during hunting season.many of these ranches allow public hunting but the Texans dont. Ranchers also need to quit complaining about the problem and giving access to help with the problem. Even drop the price a bit, so the working man can afford a hunt. Chronic wasting disease is spreading because elk are in large herds and without selective predation that would remove CWD-infected animals. Saturday: 10:00am - 2:00pm. Base the number of permits by a percentage related to the number of animals that Landowner deals with on their private property . The public backlash over that was so extraordinary the talk of bringing back wolves began then and there. You have absolutely no idea what youre even talking about. Now tags top 6,000. Hope to see Laramie, centennial , Encampment, and Saratoga again. This Wyoming hunt is offered during our 3rd week of Archery Antelope. That was 25 years ago. Wyoming is famous for big game but also is one of the most sought after areas for Waterfowl hunting. Elk arent going to leave private land if theyre nearly hub to hub trucks and ATVs lined up on the boundary waiting for them. Located near the North Platte River the area is well known for Duck and Goose Hunting. A Wyoming District court ruling in Washakie County held the State of Wyoming responsible for damages to private land and livestock by wildlife OWNED BY THE STATE OF WYOMING. You kill off a keystone species and the whole thing goes out of wack, then cry when the consequences are realized? In Montana, efforts to increase landowner licenses were met with a firestorm of opposition and failed. Offering both archery and rifle hunts, you will see a lot of animals and have a great opportunity to bring home a trophy. Second, over the last 20 years a lot of the southern Laramie Range has been burned, Hensel, Arapahoe, Britania.and others. Wolves. One elk may feed a family for 6 months or so. Bring the wolves back and after a few years the problem will resolve itself. Welfare rancher wants to sell opportunities to allow harvest of elk and of course, theyll also cash those big damage checks that the G & F hand out like covid masks. Seriously if we can expand the access yes program, increase the incentives for land owners, increase the budget for managing etc. When the Nazis attack the Soviet Union, she risks everything to join the legendary Night Witches, an all-female . Heart Six Ranch would like to answer all of your questions!

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