before stonewall documentary transcript

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We could lose our memory from the beating, we could be in wheelchairs like some were. Gay bars were to gay people what churches were to blacks in the South. It was like a reward. Barak Goodman William Eskridge, Professor of Law:Ed Koch who was a democratic party leader in the Greenwich Village area, was a specific leader of the local forces seeking to clean up the streets. Jerry Hoose:And I got to the corner of Sixth Avenue and Eighth Street, crossed the street and there I had found Nirvana. As kids, we played King Kong. Danny Garvin:People were screaming "pig," "copper." It was terrifying. Jerry Hoose:The bar itself was a toilet. Maureen Jordan And here they were lifting things up and fighting them and attacking them and beating them. And I think it's both the alienation, also the oppression that people suffered. Before Stonewall 1984 Directed by Greta Schiller, Robert Rosenberg Synopsis New York City's Stonewall Inn is regarded by many as the site of gay and lesbian liberation since it was at this bar that drag queens fought back against police June 27-28, 1969. Synopsis. It's very American to say, "You promised equality, you promised freedom." But you live with it, you know, you're used to this, after the third time it happened, or, the third time you heard about it, that's the way the world is. Andrea Weiss is a documentary filmmaker and author with a Ph.D. in American History. And they were lucky that door was closed, they were very lucky. I was never seduced by an older person or anything like that. And so we had to create these spaces, mostly in the trucks. Historic Films Fred Sargeant:The tactical patrol force on the second night came in even larger numbers, and were much more brutal. [00:00:58] Well, this I mean, this is a part of my own history in this weird, inchoate sense. Barbara Gittings and Kay Tobin Lahusen Gay History Papers and Photographs, Manuscripts and Archives Division, The New York Public Library, Astor, Lenox and Tilden Foundations To celebrate the 30th anniversary of the Teddy Awards, the film was shown at the 66th Berlin International Film Festival in February 2016. "Daybreak Express" by D.A. John O'Brien:I was with a group that we actually took a parking meter out of theground, three or four people, and we used it as a battering ram. Available on Prime Video, Tubi TV, iTunes. Genre: Documentary, History, Drama. Danny Garvin:With Waverly Street coming in there, West Fourth coming in there, Seventh Avenue coming in there, Christopher Street coming in there, there was no way to contain us. It was fun to see fags. They were the storm troopers. I told the person at the door, I said "I'm 18 tonight" and he said to me, "you little SOB," he said. You know, we wanted to be part of the mainstream society. Janice Flood Directors Greta Schiller Robert Rosenberg (co-director) Stars Rita Mae Brown Maua Adele Ajanaku They frequent their own clubs, and bars and coffee houses, where they can escape the disapproving eye of the society that they call straight. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. (c) 2011 Jerry Hoose:I was chased down the street with billy clubs. Milestones in the American Gay Rights Movement. But it was a refuge, it was a temporary refuge from the street. Raymond Castro:You could hear screaming outside, a lot of noise from the protesters and it was a good sound. Saying I don't want to be this way, this is not the life I want. And then they send them out in the street and of course they did make arrests, because you know, there's all these guys who cruise around looking for drag queens. We had been threatened bomb threats. Former U.S. President Barack Obama shakes hands with gay rights activist Frank Kameny after signing a memorandum on federal benefits and non-discrimination in the Oval Office on June 17, 2009. Howard Smith, Reporter,The Village Voice:All of a sudden, in the background I heard some police cars. Martha Shelley:When I was growing up in the '50s, I was supposed to get married to some guy, produce, you know, the usual 2.3 children, and I could look at a guy and say, "Well, objectively he's good looking," but I didn't feel anything, just didn't make any sense to me. I was in the Navy when I was 17 and it was there that I discovered that I was gay. Giles Kotcher Franco Sacchi, Additional Animation and Effects 'Cause I really realized that I was being trained as a straight person, so I could really fool these people. The Gay Revolution: The Story of the Struggle, Queer (In)Justice: The Criminalization of LGBT People in the United States. In 1969 the police raided the Stonewall Inn, a gay bar in New York City's Greenwich Village, leading to three nights of rioting by the city's gay community. Clever. I would get in the back of the car and they would say, "We're going to go see faggots." Andy Frielingsdorf, Reenactment Actors Lucian Truscott, IV, Reporter,The Village Voice:Saturday night there it was. Lucian Truscott, IV, Reporter,The Village Voice:What they did in the Stonewall that night. Narrator (Archival):This is one of the county's principal weekend gathering places for homosexuals, both male and female. Almost anything you could name. The last time I saw him, he was a walking vegetable. And the cops got that. William Eskridge, Professor of Law:At the peak, as many as 500 people per year were arrested for the crime against nature, and between 3- and 5,000 people per year arrested for various solicitation or loitering crimes. The ones that came close you could see their faces in rage. Martin Boyce:There were these two black, like, banjee guys, and they were saying, "What's goin' on man?" The first police officer that came in with our group said, "The place is under arrest. In 1924, the first gay rights organization is founded by Henry Gerber in Chicago. They can be anywhere. And it's interesting to note how many youngsters we've been seeing in these films. The film brings together voices from over 50 years of the LGBTQ rights movement to explore queer activism before, during and after the Stonewall Riots. That night, we printed a box, we had 5,000. I mean I'm only 19 and this'll ruin me. The Underground Lounge John O'Brien:It was definitely dark, it was definitely smelly and raunchy and dirty and that's the only places that we had to meet each other, was in the very dirty, despicable places. And the rest of your life will be a living hell. From left: "Before Stonewall" director Greta Schiller, executive producer John Scagliotti and co-director Robert Rosenberg in 1985. Martin Boyce:We were like a Hydra. Like, "Joe, if you fire your gun without me saying your name and the words 'fire,' you will be walking a beat on Staten Island all alone on a lonely beach for the rest of your police career. They were supposed to be weak men, limp-wristed. We'll put new liquor in there, we'll put a new mirror up, we'll get a new jukebox." I mean does anyone know what that is? I mean it didn't stop after that. And we all relaxed. Just let's see if they can. But I was just curious, I didn't want to participate because number one it was so packed. Because if you don't have extremes, you don't get any moderation. It was narrated by author Rita Mae Brown, directed by Greta Schiller, co-directed by Robert Rosenberg, and co-produced by John Scagliotti and Rosenberg, and Schiller. TV Host (Archival):Ladies and gentlemen, the reason for using first names only forthese very, very charming contestants is that right now each one of them is breaking the law. Raymond Castro:Incendiary devices were being thrown in I don't think they were Molotov cocktails, but it was just fire being thrown in when the doors got open. Lucian Truscott, IV, Reporter,The Village Voice:There were gay bars all over town, not just in Greenwich Village. Doric Wilson:When I was very young, one of the terms for gay people was twilight people, meaning that we never came out until twilight, 'til it got dark. Every arrest and prosecution is a step in the education of the public to the solution of the problem. Gay people were told we didn't have any of that. Paul Bosche [1] To commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Stonewall riots in 2019, the film was restored and re-released by First Run Features in June 2019. Lilli M. Vincenz Gay people were not powerful enough politically to prevent the clampdown and so you had a series of escalating skirmishes in 1969. Virginia Apuzzo:What we felt in isolation was a growing sense of outrage and fury particularly because we looked around and saw so many avenues of rebellion. Revealing and, by turns, humorous and horrifying, this widely acclaimed film relives the emotional and political spark of today's gay rights movement - the events that . William Eskridge, Professor of Law:The federal government would fire you, school boards would fire you. John O'Brien:All of a sudden, the police faced something they had never seen before. One of the world's oldest and largest gay pride parades became a victory celebration after New York's historic decision to legalize same-sex marriage. For those kisses. Frank Kameny You throw into that, that the Stonewall was raided the previous Tuesday night. That's what happened on June 28, but as people were released, the night took an unusual turn when protesters and police clashed. And we had no right to such. In 1969 it was common for police officers to rough up a gay bar and ask for payoffs. Quentin Heilbroner And I said to myself, "Oh my God, this will not last.". Virginia Apuzzo:It's very American to say, "This is not right." That night, the police ran from us, the lowliest of the low. Prisoner (Archival):I realize that, but the thing is that for life I'll be wrecked by this record, see? The New York Times / Redux Pictures Some of the pre-Stonewall uprisings included: Black Cat Raid, Los Angeles, California, 1967 Black Night Brawl, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, August 5, 1961. Oh, tell me about your anxiety. It's the first time I'm fully inside the Stonewall. And a whole bunch of people who were in the paddy wagon ran out. A medievalist. Available via license: Content may be subject to . The term like "authority figures" wasn't used back then, there was just "Lily Law," "Patty Pig," "Betty Badge." It was nonsense, it was nonsense, it was all the people there, that were reacting and opposing what was occurring. (Enter your ZIP code for information on American Experience events and screening in your area.). Never, never, never. To commemorate the 20th anniversary of the Stonewall riots in New York City, activists rode their motorcycles during the city's 1989 gay-pride parade. As you read, keep in mind that LGBTQ+ is a relatively new term and, while queer people have always existed, the terminology has changed frequently over the years. Tommy Lanigan-Schmidt:Those of us that were the street kids we didn't think much about the past or the future. As president of the Mattachine Society in New York, I tried to negotiate with the police and the mayor. And if we catch you, involved with a homosexual, your parents are going to know about it first. The newly restored 1984 documentary "Before Stonewall: The Making of a Gay and Lesbian Community," re-released to coincide with the 50th anniversary of the seminal Stonewall riots, remains a . David Carter, Author ofStonewall:There was also vigilantism, people were using walkie-talkies to coordinate attacks on gay men. Doric Wilson:That's what happened Stonewall night to a lot of people. And a couple of 'em had pulled out their guns. First Run Features A New York Police officer grabs a man by the hair as another officer clubs a man during a confrontation in Greenwich Village after a Gay Power march in New York. Read a July 6, 1969excerpt fromTheNew York Daily News. Slate:Activity Group Therapy (1950), Columbia University Educational Films. The events that took place in June 1969 have been described as the birth of the gay-rights movement, but that's only partially true. For the first time, we weren't letting ourselves be carted off to jails, gay people were actually fighting back just the way people in the peace movement fought back. Martin Boyce:In the early 60s, if you would go near Port Authority, there were tons of people coming in. John O'Brien:There was one street called Christopher Street, where actually I could sit and talk to other gay people beyond just having sex. Howard Smith, Reporter,The Village Voice:I had been in some gay bars either for a story or gay friends would say, "Oh we're going to go in for a drink there, come on in, are you too uptight to go in?" Howard Smith, Reporter,The Village Voice:It was getting worse and worse. Interviewer (Archival):What type of laws are you after? But, that's when we knew, we were ourselves for the first time. Danny Garvin:We had thought of women's rights, we had thought of black rights, all kinds of human rights, but we never thought of gay rights, and whenever we got kicked out of a bar before, we never came together. We don't know. Nobody. Fred Sargeant:Things started off small, but there was an energy that began to flow through the crowd. We didn't necessarily know where we were going yet, you know, what organizations we were going to be or how things would go, but we became something I, as a person, could all of a sudden grab onto, that I couldn't grab onto when I'd go to a subway T-room as a kid, or a 42nd street movie theater, you know, or being picked up by some dirty old man. So if any one of you, have let yourself become involved with an adult homosexual, or with another boy, and you're doing this on a regular basis, you better stop quick. Things were being thrown against the plywood, we piled things up to try to buttress it. Dick Leitsch:So it was mostly goofing really, basically goofing on them. They'd go into the bathroom or any place that was private, that they could either feel them, or check them visually. John O'Brien:And then somebody started a fire, they started with little lighters and matches. The events. The events of that night have been described as the birth of the gay-rights movement. Slate:In 1969, homosexual acts were illegal in every state except Illinois. Doug Cramer I mean, I came out in Central Park and other places. And, I did not like parading around while all of these vacationers were standing there eating ice cream and looking at us like we were critters in a zoo. TV Host (Archival):And Sonia is that your own hair? Slate:Boys Beware(1961) Public Service Announcement. Seymour Pine, Deputy Inspector, Morals Division, NYPD:We didn't have the manpower, and the manpower for the other side was coming like it was a real war. In 1999, producer Scagliotti directed a companion piece, After Stonewall. And they wore dark police uniforms and riot helmets and they had billy clubs and they had big plastic shields, like Roman army, and they actually formed a phalanx, and just marched down Christopher Street and kind of pushed us in front of them. All the rules were off in the '60s. So it was a perfect storm for the police. Vanessa Ezersky Jerry Hoose:I mean the riot squad was used to riots. We knew it was a gay bar, we walked past it. There are a lot of kids here. Danny Garvin:Everybody would just freeze or clam up. Tommy Lanigan-Schmidt:I never bought a drink at the Stonewall. You cut one head off. And it was those loudest people, the most vulnerable, the most likely to be arrested, were the ones that were doing the real fighting. Director . There was no going back now, there was no going back, there was no, we had discovered a power that we weren't even aware that we had. Because that's what they were looking for, any excuse to try to bust the place. Raymond Castro:I'd go in there and I would look and I would just cringe because, you know, people would start touching me, and "Hello, what are you doing there if you don't want to be touched?" Seymour Pine, Deputy Inspector, Morals Division, NYPD:It was always hands up, what do you want? Getty Images I mean I'm talking like sardines. Patricia Yusah, Marketing and Communications Narrator (Archival):Richard Enman, president of the Mattachine Society of Florida, whose goal is to legalize homosexuality between consenting adults, was a reluctant participant in tonight's program. And gay people were standing around outside and the mood on the street was, "They think that they could disperse us last night and keep us from doing what we want to do, being on the street saying I'm gay and I'm proud? The groundbreaking 1984 film "Before Stonewall" introduced audiences to some of the key players and places that helped spark the Greenwich Village riots. And I had become very radicalized in that time. Tommy Lanigan-Schmidt Noah Goldman [2][3] Later in 2019, the film was selected by the Library of Congress for preservation in the United States National Film Registry for being "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant".[4][5][6]. How do you think that would affect him mentally, for the rest of their lives if they saw an act like that being? And, you know,The Village Voiceat that point started using the word "gay.". You were alone. Her most recent film, Bones of Contention, premiered in the 2016 Berlin International I hope it was. It was right in the center of where we all were. Alfredo del Rio, Archival Still and Motion Images Courtesy of Marcus spoke with NPR's Ari Shapiro about his conversations with leaders of the gay-rights movement, as well as people who were at Stonewall when the riots broke out. Dan Martino They were getting more ferocious. And Vito and I walked the rest of the whole thing with tears running down our face. I guess they're deviates. They would bang on the trucks. It was one of the things you did in New York, it was like the Barnum and Bailey aspect of it. Dick Leitsch:New York State Liquor Authority had a rule that one known homosexual at a licensed premise made the place disorderly, so nobody would set up a place where we could meet because they were afraid that the cops would come in to close it, and that's how the Mafia got into the gay bar business. Before Stonewall, the activists wanted to fit into society and not rock the boat. Narrator (Archival):This involves showing the gay man pictures of nude males and shocking him with a strong electric current. We knew that this was a moment that we didn't want to let slip past, because it was something that we could use to bring more of the groups together. Seymour Wishman It was not a place that, in my life, me and my friends paid much attention to. What Jimmy didn't know is that Ralph was sick. It was done in our little street talk. Everyone from the street kids who were white and black kids from the South. It meant nothing to us. Somebody grabbed me by the leg and told me I wasn't going anywhere. It's a history that people feel a huge sense of ownership over. And I knew that I was lesbian. Howard Smith, Reporter,The Village Voice:And I keep listening and listening and listening, hoping I'm gonna hear sirens any minute and I was very freaked. Once it started, once that genie was out of the bottle, it was never going to go back in. Martha Shelley:I don't know if you remember the Joan Baez song, "It isn't nice to block the doorway, it isn't nice to go to jail, there're nicer ways to do it but the nice ways always fail." We assembled on Christopher Street at 6th Avenue, to march. The Laramie Project Cast at The Calhoun School Activists had been working for change long before Stonewall. In 1969 the police raided the Stonewall Inn, a gay bar in New York City's Greenwich Village, leading to three nights of rioting by the city's LGBT community. Seymour Pine, Deputy Inspector, Morals Division, NYPD:We had maybe six people and by this time there were several thousand outside. Stacker put together a timeline of LGBTQ+ history leading up to Stonewall, beginning with prehistoric events and ending in the late 1960s. That wasn't ours, it was borrowed. Doric Wilson:Somebody that I knew that was older than me, his family had him sent off where they go up and damage the frontal part of the brain. A sickness that was not visible like smallpox, but no less dangerous and contagious. Lucian Truscott, IV, Reporter,The Village Voice:TheNew York TimesI guess printed a story, but it wasn't a major story. And so Howard said, "We've got police press passes upstairs." Other images in this film are They didn't know what they were walking into. And they were gay. But I gave it up about, oh I forget, some years ago, over four years ago. Things were just changing. John O'Brien:We had no idea we were gonna finish the march. Charles Harris, Transcriptions And I ran into Howard Smith on the street,The Village Voicewas right there. That was scary, very scary. And some people came out, being very dramatic, throwing their arms up in a V, you know, the victory sign. Jerry Hoose John O'Brien:Cops got hurt. Obama signed the memorandum to extend benefits to same-sex partners of federal employees. Martha Shelley:In those days, what they would do, these psychiatrists, is they would try to talk you into being heterosexual. Danny Garvin:We became a people. So in every gay pride parade every year, Stonewall lives. It was a down at a heels kind of place, it was a lot of street kids and things like that.

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