Catcher Shea Langeliers and pitcher Spencer Strider, two of the top prospects in the Atlanta Braves organization, have joined the Gwinnett Stripers for the final five home games of 2021. The team looking to sign Swanson should have some concerns that his 2022 is unlike anything prior. Only long term deal we signed was lindor who is young in his prime. The way they draft and are able to get their players so sign long term for under market value is second to none. We anticipate him being really good because he was yesterday in the pen. Jared Shuster, LHP 4. If he is not sent down in 2023 he will finish 2023 with 2 years and 3 days of service time. Actually they did.. Youre ignoring hes going to be Top 3 in the ROY so hes going to get granted an extra year of service time. Youll find that its a similar sounding word to allude. Join our linker program. Thank god, the contract was signed today based on his performance this year. One could argue that, though. So now we have $55 mil. Im sure a non-GM telling someone they dont have what it takes to be a GM, carries a lot of weight! The Apple games are exclusives and are blacked out to anyone subscribing to MLB.tv (or regional cable: Bally, in the Braves case) further diluting the market. Cant see that happening. Super Two means you are arb eligible a year earlier, not that you get an extra year of service time. Hell instead now carry a sizable $12.5MM luxury hit the average annual value of his new contract. Salary Spencer Strider's salary is $710,000 per year, which includes a $0 signing bonus. Thats pretty much the point: Those arbitration payouts are only worth it at about a 95%+ projection of his future value, whereas they should be paying close to the 50% projection if even that much. Per SNY's Andy Martino, the Mets are hesitant to go up to four years if another team offered four at a high salary figure for the two-time Cy Young winner, who opted out of the remaining two years of the five-year . Great for Strider too, because he locks in generational guaranteed money. So start 4 years of arbitration at $9-10 million. Talent evaluation, competent analysis, and a decent memory arent your strong suits. You are comparing Harveys call up as a full season is disingenuous. His salary will jump to $20 million in '26 and then rise to $22 million for both of the next two seasons. He is going to see a huge raise to around $25 million this offseason. Hope you enjoyed this seasons episode of LOLMets Choketober and made the appropriate notation in whatever book you refer to in your user name, the book of hurt I assume. Riley is a good deal. The Braves' 2022 season has been nothing short of impressive. Not at all. Lets go Juan Soto. Betting Picks; . A Super Two is in the top 22 percent (in terms of service time not performance) of all players in their service class during the offseason that they have at least 2 but less than 3 years of service time. Julio Rodriguez still gets money for finishing 2nd in the HR Derby, gets money for being an All-Star, more money for being the Rookie of the Year, more money for probably winning a Silver Slugger, and then more money based on how much of the total rookie WAR was made up of his nearly 5.5 to 6 WAR season (they have their own calculator for WAR that is not exactly like fWAR or bWAR). Just like it wont be a collapse when the Braves get smoked in the playoffs. I hope he stays but it wont be the end of the world to have a glove 1st ss hitting 9th in this line up. Armed with a four-seam fastball averaging 98.5 MPH and a slider sporting a 42.9% whiff rate, Strider possesses exciting fantasy upside with his ability to miss bats and sport a low WHIP and ERA . Kris Bryant and Cody Bellinger were Super Twos, for instance, being arb eligible four times as opposed to the usual three. But they know that by having a huge core of players, their total risk will decrease and one or two could be replaced with gem finds at trade deadlines like AA is known for. Most pitchers do that. You do need to add a year of FA to that because 6 years takes them through his first year of FA. It doesnt pertain to him except for bonus money. This is why Swanson will end up in LAD replacing Trea Turner, while theyll save 80-100M, reuniting Swansong with Freeman, and more importantly, Charlie. Spencer Strider is currently the starting pitcher position for the Atlanta Braves in Major League Baseball, the senior baseball league of the United States. Dynasty, Mets are going to spend and bankrupt Cohen while winning absolutely nothing. Thats only free agent contracts. Thats stupid-economics! They lost Acuna and won a WS. Really? I am a Yankees fan and they could learn a thing or two from Played 2019 w/a bad heel. People who dont have money always assume having money means being reckless with it, but those that have wealth and maintain their wealth, never spend it frivolously. He was on the major league roster all season. He definitely cant play 2B, and doubt hes any better at SS. His club finished the season with an 88-73 record, finally winning the 2021 World Series, giving the team its first title since the initial victory in 1995. Theyve got Fried under control through 2024. Clemson's top freshman in 2018, but missed 2019 due to injury returned in 2020 as a weekend starter had one of the hardest fastballs on the team was both a long reliever and starter three-time ACC Academic Honor Roll member in 63.0 innings pitched over 26 appearances (10 starts) and two active seasons, he had a 5-2 record . Extra year for winning division. For someone who walked 13.5% of his opponents over the first two months of the season, the improvement was as remarkable as it was rapid; from June 10 onward, Strider walked just 6.8% of his opponents. Since 2020 was a short season lets take the last 4 seasons. Good thing Shane Spencer wasnt on the Braves for 2 months this season, they wouldve given him $100m. Subscribe to Stathead Baseball: Get your first month FREEYour All-Access Ticket to the Baseball Reference Database. Born: It will leave many teams overpaying for pitching and when those arms get injured, most teams will selloff because they wont be able to go to the well and sign another $30M free agent to replace their ace who is gone for 18 months while recovering from surgery. Thats hilarious. $1M (2024) So obviously the imaginary extra year of arb isnt getting us anywhere near. If you wait a year or two and he continues to pitch well, then his pricetag doubles. DMC: Lol all you want, but Baez is nowhere near the hitter Swanson is. These guys are gamers. I agree on Riley, but Harris and Strider seemed to sign for cheap. Its possible but I wouldnt go as far as to say its likely. Strider has two pitches and has started for 2/3 of a season. Thats conjecture, you stating what his arb years would or wouldnt be considering the volatility of pitchers, players with less than two years of major league experience, players with less than 150 major league innings, and who have barely seen each team once, when pitching has the advantage over hitting when neither has faced each other. Braves fans are setup extremely well. They are most likely greatly overpaying on those arbitration years. They have his first two free-agent years one locked in and the other as a club option. Why would Swanson get Story or Baez money? Roy would give him a full year of service time but he already has the full year of service time. Says who? Union before player, always. He didnt go to the Yankees because he was a Yankee fan. Spencer Strider +1100 Aaron Nola +1200 Max Fried +1200 Zac Gallen +1600 Zack Wheeler +1600 Julio Urias +2000 Joe Musgrove +2000 Brandon Woodruff +2000 Yu Darvish +2200 Logan Webb +3000 Kyle Wright . Yeah, then every utility bench player with a heart of gold should make $10-15M a year. Short and skinnier pitchers dont hold up well, as a general rule. Sorry for the confusion. So yes, the Braves could have waited to see if he will continue to perform at the same level as he did in 2022 and if he does perform they would have paid that price. YOU HAVE 20,000 FOLLOWERS: $100 per post at a $5/CPM. Baez and Story are declining. 33. Spencer Robert Strider (born October 28, 1998) is an American professional baseball pitcher for the Atlanta Braves of Major League Baseball (MLB). He will fall off before he ever gets those record numbers. They lost in the playoffs, winning 101 games isnt a collapse. All of this doesnt even take into consideration if hes not an inner-circle HOF pitcher and has a fall off like Trevor Rogers. Cano signed with Seattle, the Mets were just dumb enough to trade for him. Unless youre LA, NY or Boston, you play early. Not sure who he /them is/are, but I betcha Freddie wishes he wouldve had him/them last off season. Not a smart bet. After an outstanding rookie season, Strider appears to be picking up right where he left off to kick off spring . The Atlanta #Braves today signed RHP Charlie Morton to a one-year contract worth $20 million for the 2023 season, with a $20 million club option for 2024 that does not include a buyout. PLAYER. Not a fan of it, but thats the way it works. If hes just a flash in the pan, this contract will hurt the Braves badly from 2026 to 2028. Early Years of Spencer Strider Cohen doesnt care. His love of the New York night life and illegal substances didnt help his career along either. Except theyre going up against the Yankees time slots. This is the first season that he has looked really good and stayed healthy. . will he ever be that good again? Strider will be Super Two because he will be top 2 in ROY voting and that earns him and extra year of service time in the new CBA. October 6, 2022: Atlanta Braves activated RHP Spencer Strider from the 15-day injured list. Most annoying 3-2 hitter Ive watched all season. If youre going to give out a big extension like this, you should wait until after hes played three years or at least two to make sure hes for real, especially if youre only getting one or two free agent years in exchange. It looks good for these first few years and probably bad for the last 2-3, but overall seems like a good value. He is doing well in his personal life as well. If Swanson signs a $110-115MM extension, hes probably leaving at least $40MM on the table. And of that, how many non-tech savvy (i.e. Injuries are 75% covered by insurance But Wont cripple the team either way & theyve locked up a young core. 3.04 ERA 8.7 K/9. Sure, but then what if in those 2 years he continues putting up league-high K-rates, gets Cy votes (or wins), AS selections that increases his value exponentially, if he even wants to extend at that point. Hes played every regular season game but 2 over the last 3 years. Hes shown his ceiling to be so high that Im sure they wanted to lock it in place before hes outpriced himself, with another solid season. Swanson 11.2 WAR. Huge Braves fan, but youre making a reasonable point here. Product executive enabling intelligent decisions through enriching and enhancing data and delivering it in awesome products. Really mature young man. Had the Yankees given Miguel Andujar the same treatment after the 2018 season, we would be having a completely different discussion. These deals take trust on both sides. Imagine they had given a deal like this to Mike Soroka after his amazing rookie season in 2019. Worst case for Strider is close to what happened with Charlie Morton this year, and guess what? The risks are present, but the reward is fantastic, not to mention that it gives you the inside track in a few years to talk a further extension. His salary will jump to $4 million in 2025, $20 million in 20216 and $22 million in 2027 and 2028. Strong post NashvilleJ: thanks for mentioning the agent relationship angle. Besides, adding a couple extra free agent years at close to market value on a later extension is absolutely worth it if he is indeed for real. No its not at all about that. They could or locked judge up years ago now they are going to pay for it or not pay for it and lose their star. If thats the case, then the Braves just got Spencers first 5 seasons for, check this, 15 million. Every FA in Swansons class is going to be more expensive than he will. Braves will be WS contenders for the next 5 years at least with this core. Apple TV games are free this year. Only one thing is certain: his grandmother is a huge Cleveland Indians fan. @mets. The Super 2 status means more than 2 year and less than 3 years. Not to sound too negative, since there are also positives in his hitting profile, but Id have concerns going too long term with him. As a Mets fan, I love what the Braves are doing and their fans should be excited. In terms of his personal life, he is in a relationship with Maggie, a young and lovely girl. 2 things: Spencer Strider 6 hours ago $1MM for each of the 23 and 24 season is a bargain. If i was om shark tank and im Mark cuban right now im clapping! Agreed, but they hadnt locked up any pitching long-term. Sure, they have control of Fried/Wright (even via arb), but Strider is the first long-term arm. Wonder why they stupid overpay for him? But it would certainly not be enough to be among the top 22 percent of players in that class (the lowest the Super Two cutoff has been since 2009 is 2 years and 115 days after 2019). Say it once, see it 4-5 times. Sunday marked the first time Strider had thrown off a mound since his Sept. 18 start against Philadelphia. Should have let Strasburg leave. Olson was FMV. If the right billionaire acquired them and they signed say Judge, Trea and Arenado, this would be one truly awesome team and their payroll would still be less than several other teams. Its an expensive extension by prior standards, but as I noted in the finalized version of our breakdown, the prior standards were beyond antiquated. @Pads Fans Him being on the roster all year actually means he WONT be a Super Two. Without the extension, Strider would have been eligible for free agency after the '27 season. Obviously if it went that route the Braves win this by a bit, maybe $10 mil in their favor by the end of it roughly. The Braves made this deal on the assumption that Strider will both be Top 2 in ROY voting, giving him an extra year of service time, and Top 5 in Cy Young voting giving the team an extra draft pick. Dylan Dodd, LHP 9. Trevor Bauers arb years: $6.5M (2018), $13M (2019), $17.5M (2020) Before joining MLB, he was the top freshman at Clemson in 2018 and later missed the . The estimates above are crazy. Become a Stathead & surf this site ad-free. They paid $75 million for $102 million worth of his services based on your numbers. Injuries and regression could always push any of these extensions from bargain to burden particularly in the later stages of the deals, when the salaries are come with more heft. Strider retired all three batters he faced Wednesday while throwing his first simulated game of spring training, Justin Toscano of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports.

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