No Charges? Only time I used TG in 9mm it was 4.5grs. FMJ in my XD-9 vel. Started at 3.8 but it would not cycle my guns correctly so had to up it. plated or jacketed bullet at 1150 fps minimum came closest to the ideal load. Reloading is a personal responsibility and you must start low and work up and NEVER ASSUME. Nov 7, 2015. Still using same load years later and it's a good round. As long as they cycle fine in your guns, you should be good to go. There have been some top 10 ELR finishes as well but I dont remember the specifics. In that time I have used it for both hunting and competition. HP and RN load data are practically interchangeable since you should be working up from the minimum anyways. Her assignments included Patrol, Street Crimes, Narcotics, and Gangs. Reply Quote. Then work up from there. Phillip is a 10-year Marine Corps veteran having served his whole career in the Scout Sniper community. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. He has over 35 years experience in shooting, with approximately 50 tons of projectiles downrange with the assistance of Hodgdon Powder. It is our mission to encourage, organize, and support these efforts throughout Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming. You can find Ryan on Shooting Gallery on The Outdoor Channel, and Realtree.com. WARNING: If you are a newer reloader, you do not want to start out using this powder. Both Plated round nose and JHP. Seen a few of those over the years. I looked at 9mm load data for 115, 124, 147gr and the range for Titegroup is, well, tight. This powder, like other very fast pistol powders, are not good for higher velocity ammunition and really only good for budget shooting ammo, competitions, or standard pressure ammo. Every match Ive been to that chronic has the chrono set up at least 10 ft away. The .357 Sig handloads could have been loaded even hotter. The bullets I have available are 124gr/125gr plated and jacketed and 147gr plated. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. It's the cheapest and most available powder for 9mm in my area. I was happy at 4.0 gr in M&P 9 and Sig p938. PF is between 130-135 depending on gun. Do not load above recommended manufacturer book maximums. After looking at my previous set ups, the chrono was likely at about 7 feet, not 5. Starting load is 4.5gr for 1135fps. For instance I use Montana Gold hollow points and consider them to be pretty much the same as Speer/Hornady. All but 2-3 of those are with handloadedammo. This powder is very popular. The larger permanent cavity may lead to faster blood loss. Its easy to double charge your rounds, as you will barely notice. This section shows you A LOT of information about 9 MM powders and how they compete against each other using the same brass, same bullet, same OAL, same primer, same gun, same day, same conditions..the only thing that is different is the powder. There simply isn't much load data for the super-heavy 9mm bullets. I'm hoping this data may help some others that are looking for some data with Titegroup powder. We place limited powder inventory for sale on a regular basis on our website. If you can't find a properly developed published load for that combination, do yourself a favor: Call Hodgdon, and ask them for the specific load data. Look at the large picture below, you can see, a normal load barely fills the case, its way down in there. I know a lot of USPSA shooters who use it for their 9mm minor loads. Probably saved me some money. Max charge was 4.8 grains, so these should be fine. It's accurate and reliable. 10-12 ft according to my chronos instructions inorder to prevent getting false readings due to the muzzle blast. He took his first turkey and mule deer at age 6 and his first bull elk at age 9. I could manually measure amounts in the middle of the range, but I'd rather use the AutoDisk, which has cavities with volumes corresponding to the edges of the recommended range. Varget and H-4350 are the go to but since Ive been running some IMR Enduron powders that seem to work very good as well. Be sure to enter theNES/MFS March Giveaway ***Taurus G3c***. THR Group Project - PISTOL - Advanced Reloading Concepts and Discussions. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Otherwise I would go 10% below the start for the closest slug the book had. Many of these are 131-135 PF, which are plausible competition loads. Make an introduction to Jake and youll instantly receive a big grin and firm handshake. So I looked up the Titegroup load data and The 115 grain 9mm load data for LRN is only .5 grains less than the 230 grain 45ACP LRN. I used 4.5 grains of Titegroup with a 115 grain Berry's FMJ bullet and an OAL of 1.125 to 1.130. What we load doesn't mean it will be safe for you. All I had was word of mouth and books. (3.2-3.6g from the Hodgdon website). Im loading either 115gr or 125gr HP. Didn't see any Tightgroup on this chart but plenty others. In her free time, she shoots in NRL22 club matches around the Kansas City area, where she lives with her husband Shane and where she works as a pharmacist. JavaScript is disabled. From their home in Montana, Shoot Straight with Chad & Marsha follows Chad, Marsha and their two boys-Walker and Wyatt-across the world in hunting adventures. Its no wonder so many people love this powder for their economical loads, its cheap AND accurate. Brian Neace grew up in Southern Idaho in the Snake River Plain, surrounded by miles and miles of high desert to the north and bordered on the south by public wilderness. Shoots well, functions well and it is light enough. This is my first time posting a link to a google sheets doc. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. In just five years, he has earned an impressive shooting resume with consistent top finishes at national level events. My brother gave me some Titegroup. We recommend upgrading your current browser or. Shellholders: Lee #19 I've had no issues in sever thousand loads, other than having to adjust COAL a few thousandths one way or the other. 3 grains? Jaclyn has also taken up Extreme Long Range matches, including King of Two Miles in New Mexico, where she placed 14th out of 80 invited competitors. This is a good consistent and uniform powder, reloads easy and accurate. 124g berrys over 3.9g of titegroup 1.149 OAL. First for 9mm and now for 45ACP. All I ever used was Bullseye powderlove it. ABOUT CHAD: Chad is a world champion elk caller and two-time Eastern US Elk Calling Champion. This is a new powder to me and I understand that it is a fast burn powder. ABOUT WYATT: Wyatt is 14 years old and has also hunted Africa, Hawaii and other states as well. Unique - 4.6 gn - 1100 fps. You say that now. Still using 4.0 Grains of Titegroup with 124 Gr Jacketed and 3.6 Gr. Makes 900fps out of my G17. I shot a lot of Sta-Ball 6.5 and it worked well beyond expectations. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Save Share. Brian now competes in both the PRS and NRL Pro series. We believe the 2nd Amendment is best defended through grass-roots organization, education, and advocacy centered around individual gun owners. Ryan earned a Bachelors of Science in Chemistry and Plastics Engineering as well as a Masters of Science in Engineering Technologies. Every match Ive been to that chronoshas the chrono set up at least 10 ft away. WARNING: This product contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. Special Order 9MM (.356) 38/.357 (.358) 125 Gr Round Nose; 147 Gr Round Nose; 158 Gr Semi Wad Cutter; . Me thinks not, but I could be wrong. He has also put together the first online Precision Rifle Training series of its kind, gaining viewers from all over the world on the JC Steel Targets website. I have the Hornady manual, but nothing about Titegroup in the manual for 9mm. This link will be updated as I continue to develop more loads and test them. I use titegroup for 9mm using the Lee charge disk on my turret press. I haven't shot any yet but it would be disappointing if I had to pull 150 bullets. You need to get teh double disc kit. We will pass. Growing up, Brian spent very little time indoors, with his passions being split between baseball and spending time in either the river, the desert, or the mountains. I tried to make it "view only", if for some reason it does not come across that way please don't edit the document and let me know so I can adjust it. and 8 lb. 3.4 gr. Zach has several friends that are getting into reloading shotshells because of Zachs reloads. This works well for me, although the TG seems to meter a bit inconsistant, so I bought some WSF to try out. I am doing 3.7gr of Titegroup 124gr bullet. A couple months later, Zach shot USAYESS competition in Grand Island. Makes a difference the JHP will be a little hot for FMJ - assuming you are not making SD rounds. All calculations were done by hand using formulas, please let me know if anything seems off. I have found charge weights that fall in the allowable range. Like many reloaders I ended up with 6 or 7 different powders for my pistols until I shot 5 rounds from each similar FPS loads from a bench. As of 2014, Ryan and Dianna have become full time hunters and competitors, focusing most predominately on 3-Gun. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Load at your own risk. Min Charge Max Charge Optimal Charge Bullet Make Bullet Type Primer Notes; Accurate - Nitro 100 NF: 115 gr. As a rule though, i try to keep it at the distance specified by the chrono brands i`m using. It's for practice, not for competition. For a newb, you are treading on very thin ice & IMO, haven't enough exp to determine if your load is "fine". Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Upgrade efforts paused for now. TiteGroup is too fast burning to be a good universal powder. Clear editor. Posted by Donald H Nolen on Sep 26th 2022. You don't want to just use data from a similar bullet. With my setup using the .32 orifice I get 3.5-3.6gr, .34 orifice 3.6-3.8gr and with the .37 orifice 4.1-4.2gr is dispensed. Depending upon the cartridge overall length. You are using an out of date browser. JavaScript is disabled. LOL. An avid shooter and outdoorsman, George takes pride in the quality custom rifles that G.A. Warning! Gaige Grosskreutz -- The Felon Shot By Kyle Rittenhouse. I'm a self confessed TG whore but 4.5 is a little warm for my liking I stay at the 4.3 range for a 115g FMJ. They are calibrated at/for specified distances. MM thanks for that comment on the adjustable charge bar. She helps organize and coordinate Arizonas own national level event, the Tactical Precision Rifle Challenge. All loads used Winchester Small Pistol primers. 4.2, 1.155 coal will work well. The Wester #1 and Sierra #7 Manuals have 9mm +P data. I am gonna give it a try. I have been putting together some load data for some of the loads I use commonly. 9 mm Luger - Published Manufacturer Loading Data. She recently took on the role of Southwest Regional Director for the Precision Rifle Series. Phillip Velayo currently serves as Gunwerks Long Range University Lead Instructor. Jake travels the country shooting, directing precision rifle matches, and teaching precision rifle classes. We do not take backorders and our Tech Services team cannot take orders via email or phone. There aint nothin like the smell of burnt gunpowder in the mornin. May 7, 2012 9mm 124 gr FMJ 1.15" COL 4.3 gr Titegroup (a little hot) 1.100" Starting Load Grains 3.9 The current Lyman manual (49th Edition) does not have load data for anything heavier than 147 grains, but older manuals do. with 125 Gr Blue Bullets. 100% of all my handloads are done withHodgdonbrands. This is a flattened spherical powder. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! I`m using 3.8 gr for the plated, and 4.2 gr for the JHP. behind a 115gr. Currently Jake has over 65 top three podium finishes in the last four years, another record! That is all the negatives about it, it shoots just fine, its very economical and its just fine with accuracy. I am about to load my first rounds and need some data. Speer says 4.5gr is max, Lyman say 4.5gr is max w/ 115gr bullets, so I am having a diff time digesting your data. Wish i could find it again. Keyboards and steering wheels bring out the absolute worst in people. If you don't mind my asking, where did your recipe come from? I have found it to be very accurate, and prefer it over my power pistol loads. No part of the landscape, from pop cans to squirrels, was immune to a 10 round burst from a Ruger. and 8 lb. I didn't think 4.5 grains was a max load either, because on the Titegroup container it says that for 115gr Speer GDHP max load is 4.8 gr. I plan on using Titegroup since I have it for my 45ACP. My conclusion is that a 115 gr. Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. Next, plated bullets have tradionally been loaded using cast lead data. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. Soon, Zach was shooting skeet and fell in love with the sport. In 2015, Ryan and Dianna traveled to over 36 events across the world, including Italy and New Zealand. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. I was intrigued with 3-Gun since, as a police officer, I relied on all three platforms at work. Zach started attending national shoots in 2018, including Junior Worlds, Junior Olympics Nationals, and USAYESS Nationals. You are using an out of date browser which is likely incompatible with our website. I have some Titegroup I am planning on using in 9mm. He still serves the NKCPD as a Range Officer volunteer today. Today, it is a popular military and law enforcement handgun cartridge. containers. Todd is a competitive shooter and firearms instructor. 4 hours ago, looking4reloadingdeals said: 6 hours ago, looking4reloadingdeals said: I use the Caldwell chrono and it statesthat the unit must be 10-15 ft from the muzzle for the reading. Dianna Muller earned a Bachelor of Science in Criminal Justice/Psychology from University of Central Missouri and retired from the Tulsa Police Department after 22 years of service. My guess is 900 FPS jacketed load is getting close to not being able to guarantee the bullet always leaving the barrel, where a 1000 FPS load is more certain. Titegroup I use 4 gr @ 1.130". With Hornady and Precision Delta 115gr FMJ best accuracy from my CZ75s is with 4.2-4.3 gr TG (~1100fps) Boris_La Posts: 85 Join date . In Pistols and Revolvers.. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. December 31, 2019 in 9mm/38 Caliber. Lee, Lyman, Hodgdon, Hornady, all sorts of manuals have data. What is your favorite firearm to load for? The 9mm Makarov and 9mm Luger velocities of 1,000 fps and 1,100 fps respectively were quite respectable, especially in the short-barreled SIG SAUER P365. Starting Load Grains 4.9 Velocity (ft/s) 1,124 Pressure 28,800 PSI Maximum Load Grains 5.4 Velocity (ft/s) 1,209 Pressure 33,800 PSI Barrel Length: 4" Case: Winchester Primer: CCI 500, Small Pistol Trim Length: .750" Twist: 1:10" 115 GR. A plated bullet (Berry's, Rainier Ballistics) falls between the two. This year my NRL Hunter has been with H-1000 and its incredible! Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. Thank you for sharing Hodgdon Reloading data. A precision rifle enthusiast and owner of GA Precision, George likely needs little introduction. Zach, a resident of McCook, Nebraska, started shooting trap and hunting when he was 10. Maybe Ill do another test with the chrono 10ft away and see if I get any difference in results, thanks. Soon I got a lot more comfortable as I did it a lot. was 1146fps. When we are sold out, we are sold out. It can be very dangerous because its so fast burning. This made me wonder if it is a velocity issue, or a powder charge below 3.7gr issue since all these loads are for the same bullets. Pressure 27,100 to 31,400. Panel recommends more gun restrictions to lower military suicides, 12ga progressive reloader Ponsness Warren, (250) Hornady XTP 45 Cal 300gr Projectiles, Vintage Bushnell ScopeChief 22LR 4x scope. I wonder why the difference. Titegroup works very well for the load I am using on a wildcat. Powder Bul Weight C.O.L. With velocities at 1046 to 1119. It will damage a blood vessel the smaller projectile barely misses. During his time, Phillip completed 4 overseas deployments and served in all billets available to a Scout Sniper, to include Scout Sniper Team Leader, Chief Scout Sniper, and Scout Sniper Instructor. Notes: Chronograph figures are for five rounds taken with the start screen at approximately 6 feet. Hell they even have chrono`s that mount right on the barrels of rifles these days. The gun to be used is a Sig M11-A1 9mm, 4" barrel, standard recoil spring. Obligatory start low and work your way up Not cast, but I have 4k 124gr Barry's plated over 4.0gr. Hmmm, I use the .40 cavity and get pretty consistent 4.5gn drops with Titegroup. When you load this stuff, you better be focused on what you are doing, its not recommended for anyone that loads with many powders around, constantlys swapping powders. After this I would consider most all of the load data above close enough to start load development with. Walkalong, that was my guess also, but there are other fast powders listed with 900fps and 950fps loads. 9mm has a rather consistent 115gr OAL. The maxorder quantity of any powder SKU is, https://shop.hodgdon.com/sites/www/files/2022-04/2022-Hodgdon%20Spherical%20Pow. http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp, https://fsreloading.com/lee-precision-perfect-powder-measure-90058.html, Firearms News and Firearms related political news. As with any load data posted on the internet, please start testing low and work your way up. I sold off all except Titegroup. Chad is also the Director of Advertising & Media Relations for CVA Muzzleloaders, PowerBelt Bullets, Bergara USA, DuraSight Rings and Bases, Quake Industries and Konus Optics. If I don't like it, I will give it to my buddy After working up a lighter load for my daughter I ended up with 124 grain plated bullet and 4.4 grains of Titegroup. I ended up finding data for it on the instructions for the powder measure. I have been trying to get a 9mm 124gr RN load to reach 1200fps. A lot of this powder fits in a case, over 10 grains, easily. 4.2 of titegroup over a 124FMJ is my 9mm load. He is a four-time World Champion, 13-time National Champion, the only Triple Crown winner in Action Shooting Sports and has 600+ (and counting) local and regional shooting competitions. Phillip is also well known as a nationally ranked precision rifle competitor in the Precision Rifle Series and National Rifle League circuits. Sponsored by many of the hunting industries leading manufacturers, he has conducted over a thousand hunting and fishing seminars across the United States and has hunted and fished extensively around the world. Close w/ TG can be problematic. http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=9%20mm&Weight=115&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source, http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/dm&Weight=115&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source, http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=566352. YMMV. I have loaded 38 spl with 5.4 grains with a 125g bullet. What's the difference between the Berry's plated bullets and FMJ? In addition to shooting, Zach plays plays baseball, basketball, football, and track & field. Precision is making and looks forward to the future of creating the best professional custom rifles on the market. On 1/7/2020 at 8:30 PM, looking4reloadingdeals said. Maximum loads from Sierra: 115 gn bullets: Titegroup - 3.6 gn - 1100 fps. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Titegroup has it all low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I use the Caldwell chrono and it statesthat the unit must be 10-15 ft from the muzzle for the reading. I use 115 gr xtreme bullets mainly with titegroup but made up some loads recently with hp38/231. In the last several years I have really focussed on the PRS, ELR, and NRL Hunter. Loading 9mm RN with Titegroup data horsegoalie Apr 24, 2013 H horsegoalie Rating - 100% 6 0 0 Joined Sep 18, 2012 Messages 284 Likes 27 Apr 24, 2013 #1/11 I am starting a load with some Berry's 115gr RN plated bullets and Titegroup. So you are saying you found data specificly for Berry's plated & TG? My name is Robert Brantley and I have been obsessed with precision rifle since 2007. The more inexpensive "competition" powder. 1.100 in. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! tysdad115 Rating - 100% 15 0 0 Joined A licensed Montana Professional Outfitter and Guide freelance writer, his articles and photographs have been featured in magazines including Outdoor Life, American Hunter, American Rifleman, Field and Stream. OAL is about 1.139 give or take. Doubling that will come close to including practice rounds spent at his one-of-a-kind shooting range he built on the edge of the Snake River Canyon. It also burns hot, runs hot in your gun. Titegroup This is a flattened spherical powder. For 9mm, with Sierra 115 fmj, 4.8gr of Titegroup. She remains the only female to take home overall wins in national level precision rifle competitions when she won the 2016 NorCal Tactical Bolt Rifle Challenge and 2018 K&M Kahles Precision Rifle Competition. I can't seem to find the load data for 115gr FMJ w/Titegroup powder online or in the Lyman 49th manual. Later, he started a granite countertop business allows him the time to pursue his passion for long-range shooting and high-country public land mule deer and elk hunting. LRN Manufacturer Hodgdon Powder Titegroup Bullet Diameter .356" C.O.L. 9mm Luger / 9mm Parabellum Ball-Type Handloads. A top quality jacketed bullet is a top quality jacketed bullet.

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